Simpson's Malts.

[thepatchworkdoll]

Hi Eric
You can get 5Kg bags from Sainsbury for £3.75 (75p Kg).
Regards
Patch

[Mike123]

If it's any consolation, the starting price for malt will be based on ex farm price for barley which were historically high last harvest. This year it looks like the heat will have gone from the market, but not (hopefully) back to 2021 levels.

[clarets7]

If it's any consolation, the starting price for malt will be based on ex farm price for barley which were historically high last harvest. This year it looks like the heat will have gone from the market, but not (hopefully) back to 2021 levels.

Actually a better yield last year than was expected given the weird weather, but stocks were low from the previous year. Main factor for the maltsters though has to have been the energy costs.

[Eric]

Hi Eric
You can get 5Kg bags from Sainsbury for £3.75 (75p Kg).
Regards
Patch

Was in our local Sainsbury's looking at their sugar earlier this week and didn't see that Pete. Was it from cane or beet? Chemically they are the same, but I prefer to stick with cane sugar. I'll be back there soon.

[Mike123]

If it's any consolation, the starting price for malt will be based on ex farm price for barley which were historically high last harvest. This year it looks like the heat will have gone from the market, but not (hopefully) back to 2021 levels.

Actually a better yield last year than was expected given the weird weather, but stocks were low from the previous year. Main factor for the maltsters though has to have been the energy costs.

Yields were definitely better than expected last year and who knows what they will be this year. I am sure the energy costs are the main factor this year.
A couple of years ago I had discussions with an Italian company that makes drum malting machines with a view to doing some commercial malting. The machines themselves were £800k, by the time I had added storage silos and sorted a building around it all I was was up to £2m. The machine capacity was limited so margins would have been really tight and that was before energy rocketed. I stopped at that point. There's other things to do.

[PeeBee]

Hummm ... I didn't really start this thread as another 'how cheap can I make "beer"' thread. I did it as more of a 'how much difference to flavour' does this malt make.

e.g. Simpson's Amber Malt is unique and certainly worth the extra (in the right beer?). Their Imperial Malt adds something but only in the right circumstances and seems a bit short-lived (month?). Their Cornish Gold Malt ... ???

"Chavallier barley malt" costs me an-arm-and-a-leg compared to bog-standard pale malt. Yet all I've got in stock as a base malt at moment is Chavallier barley malt (20+Kg) because I think it makes beer that is substantially better than from "bog-standard pale malt". That's the sort of conversation I was after. If I'm going to spend over-the-odds, am I going to notice a marked difference? Spending over-the-odds for something that makes no appreciable difference, now that would be a waste of money.

[clarets7]

e.g. Simpson's Amber Malt is unique and certainly worth the extra (in the right beer?).

It's certainly unique and maybe worth the extra to some people but is definitely an acquired taste, one I don't have