New Zealand hops??

[beer gut]

Hi everyone i have a question about new zealand hops.I want to make a dark ale/stout using New zealand hops, but when i read the wright ups on New zealand hops there only say that the hops are used in lagers and light ales.So does anybody know wich new zealand hop i could use in my dark ale? i realy love the new zealand hops and i have already made to light ales using the new zealand hops and i would love to make a cracking dark ale with some of the best hops in the world.

[mysterio]

Use them in anything, I think they're great hops too.

Nelson Sauvin is very nice in a dark ale

I don't think any hops (except earthy ones like Fuggles) really go with roasted malts but thats personal taste.

[beer gut]

Thanx for that i have just bought Rakau the other day and when i was breaking my hundred gram bag down into smaller amounts into my air tight bags for the freezer, WOW the smell absloutley amazing.I have heard that the other new hop from New Zealand Moutaka is also a very very outstanding dual purpose hop, us brewers have been spoilt and like me we are like kids in a sweet shop.

[mysterio]

I have been tempted by the Moutoeka hops too for my next beer... maybe a lager.

[beer gut]

Well m8 i would say give it a blast caus like i said i have heard very good things about these hops that's why i bought the tropical tasting Rakau for my copper coloured I.P.A that iam brewing in january so i can get it bottled and leave it til July/August before sampling.

[mysterio]

Nearly ordered some moutoeka, chickened out though and went for more Saaz

Forgot to mention I used NZ Hallertau (Pacifica) last year for just about everything, I got a kilo for 20 quid or something. Nice hops.

[Bribie]

We use New Zealand Hops a lot in Australia, it's the only country where we can import hop flowers from (as opposed to hop pellets) for quarantine reasons. I find the Fuggles to be a brilliant substitute for UK Fuggles, and hops such as Motueka (previously known as B Saaz but nothing like a Saaz) are great in American style Ales.

However one hop well worth trying is Green Bullet which is high alpha but also a good aroma hop for a lager. Steinlager uses it. I made an all Green Bullet lager and it had a subtle bitterness that hit the middle of the tongue but then slid away leaving you wanting the next swig and a tantalising aroma as well. Quite different to any Euro hop.