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beer gut

summer hops?

Post by beer gut » Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:04 pm

Hi all i have a plan to brew a American Amber ale next year and iam thinking of blending The Aus hop summer with other American aroma hops at the finish of the boil. My question is this would the purists of American ale brewers be against me using summer in the American ale? i would also like to ask any real ale judges a question aswell if i entered this brew in a competition would i lose points if i used non american hops in american ale?

critch

Re: summer hops?

Post by critch » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:59 am

who cares what the beer judges think, itll be great with centennial and a touch of amerillo or cascade :D summer is quite delicate so watch the ratios

dont think itll work well with chinook, cluster, atahnam or ctz's though

simcoe could be good too

beer gut

Re: summer hops?

Post by beer gut » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:53 am

Hi and thanx for the reply.My plan is to use centenial for bittering,flavour and use summer and crystal for aroma+ depth. You said summer is quite delicate so watch the ammounts, my thought is 20g last 2 mins of boil or post boil addition.

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Re: summer hops?

Post by Rookie » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:45 pm

beer gut wrote:Hi all i have a plan to brew a American Amber ale next year and iam thinking of blending The Aus hop summer with other American aroma hops at the finish of the boil. My question is this would the purists of American ale brewers be against me using summer in the American ale? i would also like to ask any real ale judges a question aswell if i entered this brew in a competition would i lose points if i used non american hops in american ale?
Purists are a bunch of pillocks, use whatever hops you want. My last amber used saphir, summet, and simcoe. I left a bottle at my LHBS and the clerk liked it enough to ask for the recipe.
I'm just here for the beer.

SamT

Re: summer hops?

Post by SamT » Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:17 pm

beer gut wrote:Hi all i have a plan to brew a American Amber ale next year and iam thinking of blending The Aus hop summer with other American aroma hops at the finish of the boil. My question is this would the purists of American ale brewers be against me using summer in the American ale? i would also like to ask any real ale judges a question aswell if i entered this brew in a competition would i lose points if i used non american hops in american ale?
(as a novice judge)

If you enter it in BJCP Category 10A APA, the guidance says it shoudl "show citrussy American Hop character", and notes that "other Hop varieties may be used", so yeah, knock yourself out.
Rookie wrote: Purists are a bunch of pillocks, use whatever hops you want. My last amber used saphir, summet, and simcoe. I left a bottle at my LHBS and the clerk liked it enough to ask for the recipe.
If you're brewing a beer for your own pleasure, brew what you like. If you're brewing a beer to enter into a competition, it needs to hit the purists 'style', or no matter how good the beer, it'll get marked down.

beer gut

Re: summer hops?

Post by beer gut » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:24 am

Hi SAM T and thanx for the comments, your last part you wrote about the competition is my greatest fear, i will have to give it some thought. :-k

critch

Re: summer hops?

Post by critch » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:45 pm

judges? some just aint fit to do it.....

http://jeffpickthall.blogspot.co.uk/201 ... rpose.html

beer gut

Re: summer hops?

Post by beer gut » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:02 pm

Hi all.Critch that was a very interesting read and to be blunt down right frighting.A brewer pours all his/hers creation and hard graft into a brew and you have idiots who have no real clue at what there doing judge the beers :evil: :evil: that is down right stupid. It sounds like some people do it just so they can feel all importent for 1 day, i love competitions and this year everyone i entered i got placed but somtimes you look at the judges comments and you think how much has this person drunk before he/she started to judge the competition ie i entered into a pale ale competition and on the judges comments it was to pale? eh? Well what i think i will do is add enough summer to back up the lovely soft fruits in ale but not to add to much where it starts to hide the American citrus flavours expected by the style of ale but what i have read about summer it has soft flavour anyway so i don't think adding 20g of Summer blened with other softer american aroma hops will be fine.

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