Cascade & centennial

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crafty john

Cascade & centennial

Post by crafty john » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:38 pm

Hi Guys
I have some cascade and centennial, would they compliment each other ? am thinking of a pale bitter with US O5 yeast, any AG recipes would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

delboy

Re: Cascade & centennial

Post by delboy » Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:40 pm

crafty john wrote:Hi Guys
I have some cascade and centennial, would they compliment each other ? am thinking of a pale bitter with US O5 yeast, any AG recipes would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Thats an easy one, yes they certainly would complement each other, they form part of the classic C hops, cascade, centennial and chinook that the americans use so often together.

crafty john

Re: Cascade & centennial

Post by crafty john » Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:00 pm

delboy wrote:
crafty john wrote:Hi Guys
I have some cascade and centennial, would they compliment each other ? am thinking of a pale bitter with US O5 yeast, any AG recipes would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Thats an easy one, yes they certainly would complement each other, they form part of the classic C hops, cascade, centennial and chinook that the americans use so often together.
Thanks Delboy
Would I use the Centennial for bittering and cascade for aroma? or could I use both hops for bittering and aroma?

delboy

Re: Cascade & centennial

Post by delboy » Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:26 pm

crafty john wrote:
delboy wrote:
crafty john wrote:Hi Guys
I have some cascade and centennial, would they compliment each other ? am thinking of a pale bitter with US O5 yeast, any AG recipes would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Thats an easy one, yes they certainly would complement each other, they form part of the classic C hops, cascade, centennial and chinook that the americans use so often together.
Thanks Delboy
Would I use the Centennial for bittering and cascade for aroma? or could I use both hops for bittering and aroma?
You could use both, the centennial has a much higher alpha acid so its more suited for bittering (economically) in that sense but its a no certainly no slouch in the aroma stakes either.

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Re: Cascade & centennial

Post by WishboneBrewery » Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:29 pm

Centennial Might be a little bit sharp on the flavour if you use too much.

crafty john

Re: Cascade & centennial

Post by crafty john » Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:32 pm

Just been having a play on beer Engine, could you guys look over this recipe? Any suggestions welcome.


Fermentable Colour lb: oz Grams Ratio
Pale Malt 5 EBC 9 lbs. 14.6 oz 4500 grams 89.3%
Torrefied Wheat 4 EBC 0 lbs. 10.5 oz 300 grams 6%
Crystal Malt 130 EBC 0 lbs. 8.4 oz 240 grams 4.8%


Hop Variety Type Alpha Time lb: oz grams Ratio
Centennial Whole 10.5 % 90 mins 0 lbs. 1.2 oz 35 grams 63.6%
Cascade Whole 5.7 % 10 mins 0 lbs. 0.7 oz 20 grams 36.4%


Final Volume: 23 Litres
Original Gravity: 1.049
Final Gravity: 1.012
Alcohol Content: 4.8% ABV
Total Liquor: 33.3 Litres
Mash Liquor: 12.6 Litres
Mash Efficiency: 75 %
Bitterness: 44.1149680488152 EBU
Colour: 18 EBC

delboy

Re: Cascade & centennial

Post by delboy » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:00 am

I'd put another charge of hops in at 1 min to go to get some more aroma and flavour predominantly cascade but with some centennial also, im a hop head though so take this advice with a pinch of salt if you aren't.

haz66

Re: Cascade & centennial

Post by haz66 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:27 am

I brewed one similar to your recipe and i wasn`t that impressed with the Centennial to be honest i wish i`d just done a full
brew with Cascade but thats just me, i brewed

3500g MO Pale
400g wheat
25g Centennial @ 60 mins AA 11.9%
25g Cascade @ 5 mins AA 7.6%

IBU`s 32.5
Yeast S0-4 (i`d use US-05 if i did it again though)

It was definitely drinkable but not one of my favorites

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Re: Cascade & centennial

Post by Bobba » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:58 am

Lagunitus IPA (which is delicious) is prodominantly cascade and centennial....
http://thebrewingnetwork.com/shows/507
They do use a higher alpha hop early on, and some willamette about half way, but you could easily just swap those out alpha for alpha to make something quite scrumptious, viewtopic.php?f=24&t=34101&hilit=lagunitus

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Conditioning: AG34 Randy's Three Nipple Tripel 9.2%, AG39 APA for a mate's wedding
On bottle: AG32 Homegrown Northdown ESB, AG33 Homegrown Cascade Best
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Re: Cascade & centennial

Post by bazza » Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:11 pm

Bell's Two Hearted Ale (IPA) http://www.bellsbeer.com/brands/info/2 uses all Centennials. That's next on my list to brew. I currently grow my own Cascade and Centennials and have yet to use any of my 2010 Centennial crop so it seems like a good fit.

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Re: Cascade & centennial

Post by delboy » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:15 pm

haz66 wrote:I brewed one similar to your recipe and i wasn`t that impressed with the Centennial to be honest i wish i`d just done a full
brew with Cascade but thats just me, i brewed

3500g MO Pale
400g wheat
25g Centennial @ 60 mins AA 11.9%
25g Cascade @ 5 mins AA 7.6%

IBU`s 32.5
Yeast S0-4 (i`d use US-05 if i did it again though)

It was definitely drinkable but not one of my favorites
Thats the problem with offering advice on recipes etc, tastes are completley subjective, i think centennial is great some with a different palate won't, always makes me wary of offering to much advice about such things TBH.

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