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Selling/swapping hop plant cuttings by post

Post by floydmeddler » Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:22 pm

I'm interested in buying some hop rhizomes or plants but find the prices of delivery too high. I've read about people being successful with cuttings and had a brainwave. Has anyone here had success with cuttings and if so, would they be prepared to sell me one / a few or do a swap for some yeast on a slant? Check out my yeast bank in my signature.

Would it be even possible to post a cutting without it dying or getting destroyed by Royal Mail?

Maybe this is a stupid idea... :roll:

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Post by crafty john » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:48 am

awalker sent me 3 cuttings last year wrapped in plastic bags with a little compost in a small jiffy bag, I planted them up and they did OK but this year they are a lot stronger. I will be taking cuttings when they are in their third year. I know that won't help you this year but you are welcome to some next spring.

So no it's not a stupid idea and I am sure someone with some mature plants will help you out.

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Post by boingy » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:56 am

Yes, it is possible but it is not the best time of year to be doing it. Best time is in autumn and the best method is to take a root cutting. The plants are dormant in winter so you can lift them, split the roots and replant. A root cutting will easily survive being posted. Wrap it in a bit of damp newspaper and seal it in a plastic bag.

Hops are now starting to grow so root cuttings cannot really be done. Some folks have reported success with rooting the surplus shoots in spring but I did not manage to get mine to root.

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Post by awalker » Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:20 pm

Yep as boingy says

Root cuttings are the best a lot stronger, but will have to wait until next year now.

Cuttings of spare shoots can be done but they will take a few years to get to the same strength as a root cutting.
I just put cuttings in water as I think I read some where on here and the roots started growing, then planted in pots.

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Post by floydmeddler » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:03 pm

OK. Cheers lads. Will put a request out in autumn.

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Post by crafty john » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:43 pm

boingy wrote:Yes, it is possible but it is not the best time of year to be doing it. Best time is in autumn and the best method is to take a root cutting. The plants are dormant in winter so you can lift them, split the roots and replant. A root cutting will easily survive being posted. Wrap it in a bit of damp newspaper and seal it in a plastic bag.

Hops are now starting to grow so root cuttings cannot really be done. Some folks have reported success with rooting the surplus shoots in spring but I did not manage to get mine to root.
Did you use hormonal root powder?

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Post by Walrus81 » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:32 am

Floyd,

i have a fuggles root that has been re potted this year. It seems to be throwing shoots up, if you are interested let me know.

If you are not in a rush I can maybe drop it off near Brighton, not sure when I'll next be down that way though!

I might also have a fuggles, however no shoots as of yet.

Would you be willing to trade for WLP300 (assuming I am correct in thinking that it is a Hefeweizen yeast).

Let me know.
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Post by boingy » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:22 am

crafty john wrote:Did you use hormonal root powder?
Not this time but I have a long history of being unable to get cuttings of any plant to root. I either end up with a dead twig in water/soil or just create a mouldy ornament. I've tried various powders, gels and methods. So I was quite chuffed when I split my Cascade rhizome and found both are shooting. Some of us are just not green-fingered I guess.

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Post by Walrus81 » Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:18 pm

I've taken cuttings also and all took.

The only thing that mucked them up was I forgot to open the green house and water them!

so here is how I took a cutting:

1).Find suitable shoot for cutting(it needs to be at least 10cm long and have leafs)

2).Remove shoot from main vine(usinf a sharp CLEAN blade)

3).Trim your cutting to about 10cm long cutting JUST BELOW A NODE (where more shoots branch off)

4).Cut off any extra leafs, using a slicing motion to cut shoots off flush and in one go. You want to have a couple of leafs
on top of the cutting that's it.

5).Take cutting and slide down the inside of a pot filled with compost.

6).Water pot but do not saturate.

7). Please in green house or put a freezer bag over pot and place on window sill where it will get sunlight.

8). Keep watered.

9). Plant out when strong enough

The resaon for pusing the cutting down the side of the pot was recomended by a friend who owns a nuersery as it helps roots develop.


As I said this method worked for me and is basically a summer cutting method.

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Post by floydmeddler » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:12 pm

Walrus81 wrote:Floyd,

i have a fuggles root that has been re potted this year. It seems to be throwing shoots up, if you are interested let me know.

If you are not in a rush I can maybe drop it off near Brighton, not sure when I'll next be down that way though!

I might also have a fuggles, however no shoots as of yet.

Would you be willing to trade for WLP300 (assuming I am correct in thinking that it is a Hefeweizen yeast).

Let me know.
Sounds great! Will PM you. ;-)

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Post by pantsmachine » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:31 am

Excellent guide, thanks.
Walrus81 wrote:I've taken cuttings also and all took.

The only thing that mucked them up was I forgot to open the green house and water them!

so here is how I took a cutting:

1).Find suitable shoot for cutting(it needs to be at least 10cm long and have leafs)

2).Remove shoot from main vine(usinf a sharp CLEAN blade)

3).Trim your cutting to about 10cm long cutting JUST BELOW A NODE (where more shoots branch off)

4).Cut off any extra leafs, using a slicing motion to cut shoots off flush and in one go. You want to have a couple of leafs
on top of the cutting that's it.

5).Take cutting and slide down the inside of a pot filled with compost.

6).Water pot but do not saturate.

7). Please in green house or put a freezer bag over pot and place on window sill where it will get sunlight.

8). Keep watered.

9). Plant out when strong enough

The resaon for pusing the cutting down the side of the pot was recomended by a friend who owns a nuersery as it helps roots develop.


As I said this method worked for me and is basically a summer cutting method.

hth.

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Post by boingy » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:56 am

I'm pretty sure my cuttings perish due to lack of attention. I find it difficult keeping just the right amount of moisture in the soil. They are fickle little things and don't seem to like dehydration or drowning...

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Post by crafty john » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:37 pm

boingy wrote:I'm pretty sure my cuttings perish due to lack of attention. I find it difficult keeping just the right amount of moisture in the soil. They are fickle little things and don't seem to like dehydration or drowning...
You could always place a bucket of water near your pots and put a wick of some sort from the bucket in to each pot, that way a small amount of water will be drawn up by the wick to provide enough moisture. A lot of people use this method with tomatoes etc when they go on holiday. Just remember to keep the bucket topped up.

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Post by floydmeddler » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:00 pm

crafty john wrote:
boingy wrote:I'm pretty sure my cuttings perish due to lack of attention. I find it difficult keeping just the right amount of moisture in the soil. They are fickle little things and don't seem to like dehydration or drowning...
You could always place a bucket of water near your pots and put a wick of some sort from the bucket in to each pot, that way a small amount of water will be drawn up by the wick to provide enough moisture. A lot of people use this method with tomatoes etc when they go on holiday. Just remember to keep the bucket topped up.
That's genius! Does the water pot need to be higher?

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Post by crafty john » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:17 pm

floydmeddler wrote:
crafty john wrote:
boingy wrote:I'm pretty sure my cuttings perish due to lack of attention. I find it difficult keeping just the right amount of moisture in the soil. They are fickle little things and don't seem to like dehydration or drowning...
You could always place a bucket of water near your pots and put a wick of some sort from the bucket in to each pot, that way a small amount of water will be drawn up by the wick to provide enough moisture. A lot of people use this method with tomatoes etc when they go on holiday. Just remember to keep the bucket topped up.
That's genius! Does the water pot need to be higher?
Yes then gravity will do all the watering for you, plus they won't get too wet, the pots take just what they need.

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