Whitbread Golding

[fishplate]

This hop is used in one of Graham's recipe's,but I can't find a stockists so is the an equivalent.Cheers

[GrowlingDogBeer]

The Malt Miller sells them. They are commonly listed as WGV.

[Crispy Hedgehog]

Hop & Grape also sell WGV.

[seymour]

From the handy Wikipedia page of hop varieties:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ho ... _.28WGV.29

Whitbread Golding Variety (WGV)
Bred in England in 1911 from open pollination of Bates Brewer, named after the brewery that owned the land, not a true golding. Not dissimilar to Golding but more robust with distinguishing sweet fruity note.

If you can't source WGV, First Gold/Prima Donna is a prolific dwarf cultivar bred from WGV (which you could grow your own next season.) Other close substitutes include any Goldings or Progress, maybe Bramling Cross, but they'll lack some of the subtle fruitiness.

[fishplate]

Cheers for the reply's

[scuppeteer]

As usual Wikipedia isn't the bible of everything.
WGV should be named Whites Golding Variety, after the man who bred the hop. Unfortunately as with most large corporations they forget the real people who did the work and take the glory. Whitbreads bought the farms and also the name in 1920. Ironically they don't even make beer anymore, they own pubs, hotels and sell coffee!
Edward Albert White (1844-1922) was a true pioneer in the world of hops. He implemented his own breeding program and working closely with the great Professor Salmon (of the newly formed Wye College) he developed the idea of cross pollination in an effort battle the disease ridden varieties. WGV was the result of a seedling selection.
Mr White built the Beltring Hop farm, for those that don't know it, it is 4 massive oasts each with 5 kilns, as well as the Brooker which is 3 kilns and it dominates the local skyline. In his peak he farmed some 400acres of hops. Coming from a wealthy family he was a true gent and dismayed at the conditions his pickers were living built the very first permament pickers huts. He also developed the use of pesticides and whilst other farms struggled with disease, his crops flourished. His own company was the starting blocks for ICI. A truely great man often missed by the history books.
So I reiterate WHITES GOLDING VARIETY. I shall start a lobby of Parliament to have the name changed.

There endeth the history lesson.

Bramling X ain't even close Seymour, totally different hop and flavours.

[GrowlingDogBeer]

Good info there, thanks scuppeteer.

[seymour]

I stand corrected, scuppeteer. Thanks for the good information! Dunno how far you'll get with Parliament, but at the very least you should submit a correction to the wiki page

[seymour]

UPDATE: I see the wiki page is now updated. Go scuppeteer! Now to deal with Parliament...