Endeavour Blending

[raiderman]

Just dran
k my first effort with Endeavour. 100g in 23l, mainly MO but with a kilo of Vienna and 250g caraplils. Endeavour - 10g 60m then 20g at 30m then the rest over the last 15m and 15g after flame out. Big brambly aroma, nice dark fruit, never had a miullberry but I'd go for mullberry

damson flavour with a hint of citrus to lighten it, bit not as we know citrus, no lemon or grapefruit. Question is I brew again at the weekend. I could brew ll all citra or chuck some citra in with the endeavour - anyone tried this or tried it with the more brambly of the English hops.or got a better idea for getting the est out of endeavour??

[scuppeteer]

Interesting tasting notes, did a single Endeavour today, can't wait to see what I get. I do find Citra can overpower everything so try another English hop to blend with. Maybe Challenger, EKG or even Bramling X if you think it gives a mulberry flavour. Perhaps it will work better in a darker beer.
Keep us posted.

[timbo41]

Is this an English cluster Dave...nice.
big hedgerow notes...sounds like could work well in a short brewed esb

What's the alpha for this variety. Have just caned a flyer smash..lovely

[beer gut]

Hi I can't wait to get brewing with Endeavour I have plans to brew a single hop E.S.B. with Endeavour. When it comes to what hops to blend with Endeavour, well the recipes I have seen with Endeavour have used First Gold, sovereign, Goldings. I think you could even use Galena if you are brewing Old ale or a Dark ale. I hope they make Endeavour, Flyer permanent availability for home brews and commercial brewers. I would love to hear your reviews when the beer is ready to supp.

[raiderman]

Is this an English cluster Dave...nice.
big hedgerow notes...sounds like could work well in a short brewed esb

What's the alpha for this variety. Have just caned a flyer smash..lovely

AA is 7.71. Might go in a darker ale but I'm off dark beers! I'm thinking of going the other way. I'm going to put some Challenger in for bittering. Then hop from 30m down with 25 g endeavour evey 10m and the final 25 g at flame out with perhaps 30 g challenger at 5m and dry hop with challenger. Subject to adjustment when I run it through the calculator!

[beer gut]

That looks like a good base for a nice brew. I love Challenger, I don't know of any Ale hop that does not blend well with Challenger. So blending Challenger with Endeavour sounds very tasty indeed. Are going to use malts to balance the hops or are looking for a nuclear bomb of hop character ?

[raiderman]

I'm going to keep the body pale in order to emphasise the hops. Ill aim for 4.5:/: all MO with some carapils to give a little body. Normally I all late hop which is great for big citrusy new world hops but Endeavour is a denser aroma and a different approach is called for Hedgerow sorta sums it up so I'm looking to extend the aroma with the challenger but anchor the flavour with some proper bitterness from the beginning of the boil.

[raiderman]

Tried my Endeavour again today. There's a real fruity incurrent to it. I've got two empty corners so I'm tempted to put off brewing the next endeavour for another week in order to get to know it better!

[beer gut]

This hop sounds right up my ally. I am a Big fan of the Black current/ fruity flavours that you get from Bram X and Galena. I think I will do a whole range of styles from pale to Dark so I can get a real understanding of Endeavours characteristics. I am doing the same with Flyer now and I have been very impressed with flyer, but to be honest I am more excited about Endeavour than any of the new English hop varieties.

[raiderman]

This hop sounds right up my ally. I am a Big fan of the Black current/ fruity flavours that you get from Bram X and Galena. I think I will do a whole range of styles from pale to Dark so I can get a real understanding of Endeavours characteristics. I am doing the same with Flyer now and I have been very impressed with flyer, but to be honest I am more excited about Endeavour than any of the new English hop varieties.

So what's your preferred malt base for bramX and galena?

[beer gut]

The malt base depends on what style of ale I am aiming for. In the past when I have brewed a Rich full body winter special I have used a blend of pale malts Maris otter and Munich, then I used alot of special B for colour and for the full caramel/ dark fruity flavours in this brew i used Galena and BramX. for last Christmas I brewed a Tripple Oat stout using Galena and Bram X for both bittering and finishing uses. This was the best stout i have ever brewed, the bitterness was clean and well balanced and the Dark fruits that came through where delicious. Alot of people are not that fond of Bram X but i have used it in my award winning I.P.A. and in countless other bitters and pale ales,dark ales.

[raiderman]

You should definitely give endeavour a go then. I don't brew anything dark and have even gone off crystal malt, preferring carapils. But I have a feeling endeavour will link well with crystal in the blend and it ought to suit a darker beer

[beer gut]

Hi last year I saw Endeavour profile on the British hop association page I thought Dark ale, I even contacted The British Hop association about Endeavour and to see if I could get some, the reply was no it's still in the field trials and only commercial brews have access to Endeavour. The reply was kind enough but basically it's going to years before the home brewers get some, so when I saw the thread where I can get some I was there. I think when the hop farmers find a new hop I think the best test is to give some of the crop to home brew store and see how it sells and to get some feed back from the brewers. I am also going to brew a Brown ale that is very close to my heart using Endeavour for bitterness and late uses, This Brown ale was brewed in memory of my Younger brother who died in 2009 and the brown ale is named after him, this brown ale has many awards it was even put on the hand pulls at my local brewery tap.

[raiderman]

Wow. That's really something. I'm sure it'll turn out well

[jmc]

I'm going to keep the body pale in order to emphasise the hops. Ill aim for 4.5:/: all MO with some carapils to give a little body. Normally I all late hop which is great for big citrusy new world hops but Endeavour is a denser aroma and a different approach is called for Hedgerow sorta sums it up so I'm looking to extend the aroma with the challenger but anchor the flavour with some proper bitterness from the beginning of the boil.

Sounds lovely. Did you do this brew?
If so how did it turn out?

I've got some Endeavour and can't decide on the recipe to use.
Recently Tring brewery did a monthly special called 'Peeking Polecat' with it and it was lovely.