Re using hops

[far9410]

Hi, I'm not tight but, I've just dry hopped a coopers pale ale kit with a 60g combo of Amarillo and cascade, do you think I could use them for bittering next brew, if so should I reduce the AA figure by percentage, say 20%?

[boingy]

I've answered this one before and my answer remains the same:

Yes you can, but don't be such a bleedin' tight arse!

[far9410]

I've answered this one before and my answer remains the same:

Yes you can, but don't be such a bleedin' tight arse!

Ok point taken, I'm still gonna do it tho!

[Beer O'Clock]

Yep I've gotta agree with Boingy. Why take the trouble of making a beer that runs the risk of being disappointing just to save a few shekels ?

[wilsoa11111]

aye u feel tight doing it

but can add to some beers where u defo want no hop aroma just a basic bitterness- great in my belgian farmhouse styleish thing

[seymour]

Yes you can, but don't be such a bleedin' tight arse!

Really? I would think that's a terrible idea.

Dry hopping doesn't add bitterness, because the hops haven't been boiled to isomerize the alpha acids into solution. But that doesn't mean the alpha acids are all still perfectly intact. Surely after dried flowers are suspended in an acidic, alcoholic, liquid solution for days or weeks their delicate resins will be deteriorated beyond the point of subsequent usage.

Use 'em for dry hopping, or use in the boil, but I can't imagine how you could use the same ones for both purposes.

[bigdave]

Many commercial breweries do it so why shouldn't you!

[far9410]

As I suggested, they will have lost some of there alpha acid, but allowing for that and using in a full boil as bittering only I can't see a problem other than not knowing the accurate bittering levelheaded

[seymour]

Many commercial breweries do it so why shouldn't you!

Commercial breweries take used dry hops and add them to the boil of subsequent batches? Which ones? I'm not saying I don't believe you, I've just never heard of that.

[BeerEagle]

Many commercial breweries do it so why shouldn't you!

Commercial breweries take used dry hops and add them to the boil of subsequent batches? Which ones? I'm not saying I don't believe you, I've just never heard of that.

Don't know which but I'm sure that I've drunk some. Yuk

[Normski]

I have had a few double brew days, where i have brewed a hoppy Ipa as the 1st brew.
And squeezed in a 2nd brew just useing a simple bitter or stout grain bill and leaving all of the hops from the 1st brew in the boiler.
I do add some hops to the 2nd brews boil but it doesnt need much, if any.
Yes its a bit hit an miss, but I've had some nice ale from it. Yeah I know Boingy tight arse eh ha ha.

[far9410]

ok then , you b'stards, i've chucked em on compost bin, mind you i wasnt ready for next brew

[Barley Water]

Well God knows I can be as frugal as the next person but I would think reusing hops might actually cost you money in the long run. To the extent that alot of the alpha and beta acids are pulled out of the hops during the first use, that would leave an undetermined minor amount for the second brew. Since you don't really know what you are dealing with I would think the risk of having less than an optimum beer would go way up for the second brew. To the extent you made an investment in grain etc for the second brew why chance less than a sublime beer? Sure, it's probably going to be potable but hey, aren't we trying to make the best swill we can possible produce? After all, you can get all the second rate stuff you can lay your hands on easily, that's what Bud, Miller and Coors are for after all.

[far9410]

Well God knows I can be as frugal as the next person but I would think reusing hops might actually cost you money in the long run. To the extent that alot of the alpha and beta acids are pulled out of the hops during the first use, that would leave an undetermined minor amount for the second brew. Since you don't really know what you are dealing with I would think the risk of having less than an optimum beer would go way up for the second brew. To the extent you made an investment in grain etc for the second brew why chance less than a sublime beer? Sure, it's probably going to be potable but hey, aren't we trying to make the best swill we can possible produce? After all, you can get all the second rate stuff you can lay your hands on easily, that's what Bud, Miller and Coors are for after all.

I know, I Know, for chriss sake!!

[Hanglow]

I was considering doing this today as I'm having a double brewday - citra heavy golden ale, all late additions, then I'm doing a big bastard of a stout which calls for shitloads of hops - It's at 100IBUS without any other additions, so might well be pointless