Jug versus Pitcher

[YeastWhisperer]

The more I hang out on this forum, the more I realized that the UK and the U.S. are countries separated by a common language. I used the word "jug" in my "Shaken, not Stirred" thread. However, it appears that a jug in the U.S. and a jug in the UK are different things. A jug in the UK is what is known as a pitcher in the U.S. A jug in the U.S. is a large bottle with a handle.

U.S. Pitcher



U.S. Jug



With that said, I was referring to the later, not the former when I used the word jug in my starter making method. Does such a container exist in the UK?

[MTW]

Looks similar to our 1 Gallon demijohns:

[YeastWhisperer]

Okay, I now have the translation. We use the word demijohn as well, but it generally refers to the large glass vessels that are used in wine making.



Do your 1-gallon demijohns have screw-on caps? That vessel appears to be an Imperial gallon in size, which is good because an Imperial gallon is more than 4 liters. The U.S. gallon is approximately 3.8 liters. It is the old British wine gallon. The Imperial gallon is close in size to the old British ale gallon. I guess that brewers were more generous than vintners.

[MTW]

Yes - 1 Imperial Gallon. You can get caps for them, there is a thread in the glass at the top, but I've never owned any.

[YeastWhisperer]

If you read this thread, you will see why a screw-on cap is almost a necessity with my starter method.

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=70926

[oz11]

Just don't get on to "growlers"



Acknowledgement: Picture from Eadward's Twitter

[Jocky]

5 litre water bottles might be a good alternative in the uk to a glass demijohn, as most demijohns don't come with screw caps.



The ridges on the side of these plastic bottles make them difficult to clean after a single fermentation, but as they usually cost under a pound ($1.50 to you YW ), and include water that can be suitable for Star San use that shouldn't feel like too much of an expense. It's certainly cheaper than a wasted batch or second vial of yeast.

[MTW]

Good idea Jocky. I guess we'd keep a spare cap with a grommet fitted for an airlock, or one of those smart outgassing bungs [anyone got a UK link for those, by the way please]... or just loosen the cap a little? Do normal bungs fit these anyway?

[Pinto]

Drill a 12mm hole and fit a 12mm grommet - perfect size for airlocks

[Fil]

it was quite shocking when visiting the US a long time ago that folk who tend to uber conservatism in public would bandy the word fanny frequently without a second thought.. that was quite a rude word in 1970's UK... but ask a pall to chuck u a fag and the whole bar would fall silent!

[YeastWhisperer]

Just don't get on to "growlers"

It's an old word that has become fashionable with hipsters because of the craft beer movement. It comes from an old phrase "rush the growler," which loosely meant "fetch a pail of beer from a bar."

[Jocky]

Good idea Jocky. I guess we'd keep a spare cap with a grommet fitted for an airlock, or one of those smart outgassing bungs [anyone got a UK link for those, by the way please]... or just loosen the cap a little? Do normal bungs fit these anyway?

You need a larger bung for those bottles.

But for creating starters I would just loosen the cap, as YW says in 'Shaken, not Stirred' (viewtopic.php?f=12&t=70926) or otherwise remove the cap and put a sanitised a piece of foil over the end.

[YeastWhisperer]

it was quite shocking when visiting the US a long time ago that folk who tend to uber conservatism in public would bandy the word fanny frequently without a second thought.. that was quite a rude word in 1970's UK... but ask a pall to chuck u a fag and the whole bar would fall silent!

Fanny (UK) = slang for female genitalia
Fanny (U.S.) = slang buttocks, backside, bum

Fag (UK) = slang for cigarette
Fag (U.S.) = derogatory slang for a homosexual (short for faggot)

Nancy boy (UK) = slang for an effeminate or homosexual man
Nancy boy (U.S.) = What did he say? Do we speak the same language?

[chris.laws.54943]

it was quite shocking when visiting the US a long time ago that folk who tend to uber conservatism in public would bandy the word fanny frequently without a second thought.. that was quite a rude word in 1970's UK... but ask a pall to chuck u a fag and the whole bar would fall silent!

A friend of mine said to pals in LA "I'm gonna go outside and smoke a fag"
To which the American chum replied in astonishment :
"You're gonna shoot a gay guy???"

[YeastWhisperer]

5 litre water bottles might be a good alternative in the uk to a glass demijohn, as most demijohns don't come with screw caps.

One can always take the ridiculous waste of money approach like I did when I purchased a 5L borosilicate glass media bottle. I wanted one of those bottles for a very long time before I pulled the plug. I only made the purchase because I was able to acquire the bottle as unused lab surplus for 50% of the new price. Corning glassware lasts a long time if not abused. I have a couple of Corning 4980 500ml Erlenmeyer flasks that I use for holding crops that I have owned for over twenty years.