Turbo Cider - First Batch Review

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Turbo Cider - First Batch Review

Post by Reg » Wed Dec 28, 2005 7:19 pm

Now this may seem a tad pompous, but I have always approached home brewing from the point of view of trying to achieve quality as well as quantity and also I think it may be helpful to let potential users of the original http://www.forumforfree.com/forums/inde ... wtopic=338 and http://www.forumforfree.com/forums/inde ... wtopic=347 what results they can expect.

I have in front of me a wineglass half-full with the racked Turbo Cider from batch one, made as described in the thread. The taste is interesting, edging towards the dry side, perhaps slightly drier than Strongbow, but not as dry as Dry Blackthorn.

The cider has now fallen almost completely clear and will no doubt finally clear in the bottle with a little help from the cold weather and a life in my shed. There is a pleasant amount of apple in the flavour and a little sparkle in it already from the racking bottle, but I must say that the nose is very disappointing. I can smell a can of cider being opened on the other side of the room, a handy habit if you are thristy :D , however getting my nose right into the glass I get very little of the pleasing acid, apples and greenery you might smell from a good cider.

The colour is a little pale to my eye, but this may be owing to the small quanitity I am testing. I have bottled the cider with a good teaspoon of sugar to each litre on the priciple that a goodly fizz will help liven up the drink and may bring more of the aroma to the nose when drinking.

I would say that the main problem with the brew is probably the gelatine cleared reconstituted apple juice concentrate used as the original main ingredient. I have a feeling that sweeter more zingy apples like gala or pink lady might add a little more flavour and bouquet to the drink, they might also add a little more strength and sweetness.

Don't get me wrong, the costs of producing 4.5 litres of a fair cider are excellent, but if I continue with my last recovered yeast culture, I feel I may juice some fresh apples in my juicer, clear the juice with gelatine and add 1-2 litres of this juice to the cheap apple concentrate in order to build a more mature look, flavour and particularly bouquet, which does let this brew down somewhat.

Anyway, that's my 2p on the brew, which will no doubt be consumed in any case... :P

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Post by Andy » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:08 am

Aye, gettit down t'neck. After a litre you won't care what it smells like :lol:


Lidl sell 100% 'pure' apple juice for 79p/litre if you fancy trying some non-concentrate based juice.

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Post by Andy » Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:57 pm

Well just got home after spending Christmas away and my batch has completely cleared in the demijohn. Will rack to 5 litre placcy container and prime tonight.

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Post by Andy » Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:44 pm

Mmmm, this stuff is growing on me :D

Has to be served chilled to fully appreciate it I think.

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Post by Reg » Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:14 am

Well I've just opened my first bottle which must be nearly a month old.

The situation has improved remarkably. Not much more fizz, and no oak casks involved but just the chance to settle down has added much more - maturity is the only word I guess.

There we go... patience is a virtue. :D

However, I'm not being a snob, the nose ain't right. I still stick with my suggestion of some real apples at some stage to improve the presentation. :blink:

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Post by quaffter » Sat Jan 28, 2006 5:35 pm

Reg,
I am no master turbo cider maker, others are, but l am on my 10th brew since starting.
Each one appears to get better.
That is not bull.
But l have had to try and adjust the recipe to suit my taste.
I like medium to dry, so increased the sugar to achieve this.
It took 3 attempts to get close to what l wanted.
Still "tinkering" :o
Can not get much fizz, but that does not worry me too much as l like it rather on the still side, rather than dripping over the glass :o .

I am a keen football fan, ok do not switch off yet ;) , have some friends who love beer and cider.
Planning for the World Cup and have my sights set on brewing 50 litres of the cider every 4 days to match our drinking aspirations.
Plenty of planning, building and purchasing to do to achieve this mega project.
The apple juice l use is from an oriental style apple, ie red, its from China or/and Japan.
Has a lot of flavour and comes through with the finished product.
When l put honey in stead of sugar, the flavour was lost.
Again l hear people saying try all the different apple brands to find the best for your taste.

Not trying to teach grandmother how to suck eggs, just my experience for what it is worth.
Love the turbo cider.
Cheers,
quaffter ;) :P

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Post by Reg » Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:57 pm

Well

I've just chilled off another litre for another taster. ;)

The nose is still a little weak but this one having had another week to stand has again developed a little more maturity and funnily enough and improved overall aroma. I guess the rule of a month for maturity stands true and I would say with just a little more zing in the smell this would be something that you could substitute for a something slightly drier than Strongbow and probably draw little comment. :D

deadlydes

Post by deadlydes » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:11 am

BTW this is the original Turbo Cider thread:
http://www.homewinemaking.co.uk/cgi/yab ... 1103122390

Which i will gladly own up to that it is mine :D
i never thought this recipe would end up being this popular!

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Post by quaffter » Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:37 pm

Deadlydes,
You must be nominated for some sort of award for your massive contribution to the apple fruit juice industry who's sales are rocketing up all over the UK and world wide.
Also for your contribution to giving me and other grand drinkers of anything that includes alcohol, a splendid product. Easy to make and far too easy to drink :P :o :P .
Give us more Des ;) :P B)
Cheers,
quaffter :P

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Post by Reg » Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:11 pm

QUOTE (deadlydes @ Jan 30 2006, 09:11 AM) BTW this is the original Turbo Cider thread:
http://www.homewinemaking.co.uk/cgi/yab ... 1103122390

Which i will gladly own up to that it is mine :D
i never thought this recipe would end up being this popular!
:unsure: Kinda wish you hadn't now... 2 litres has given me a mighty bad head :out :stun :wacko:

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Post by Andy » Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:28 pm

We are in exalted company with the original Turbo Cider author joining the site! :D

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Post by deadlydes » Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:08 pm

Cheers Guys :D

i am still amazed on how big this thing has got. it started off as just an experiment, almost a joke really, and its turned into, well something quite amazing.

i have got a few ppl into homebrew with this recipe also. since they tasted mine and asked how i made it. i told them how easy it was and convinced them to give it a go and they are hooked. amazing.

well i suppose i can say that i have contributed something to the homebrewing community at least...............way hey claim to fame!!

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Post by quaffter » Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:19 pm

deadlydes...claim to fame l should say so :o
You have labels of turbo cider on the internet :rolleyes: .
You have tee shirts with turbo cider on them :rolleyes: .
You have baseball caps with turbo cider on them :rolleyes: .
You have a song about your turbo cider by "lovers of the fallingdown water boys" called
"turbo cider makes mee shocks blow off" :rolleyes: .

Careful of the new pop star status :rolleyes: .
Regards,
quaffter ;) B) :pink

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Post by Jim » Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:44 pm

We are not worthy!! :D :D ;)

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Post by Road Runner » Tue Feb 14, 2006 7:44 pm

I hear most people are not worthy of much at all after drinking too much Turbo Cider.

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