lidl apple high juice

[afur130173]

Has anyone used the royal orchard Apple high juice from lidl.

It contains potassium sorbate and other preservatives so these will need boiled off.

Just wondering of anyone had tried it. Contains 400g sugar in 1 litre bottle abd thought it may be good fir cheap cider.

[oldbloke]

With ordinary apple juice giving 5 to 6 % I've never seen the point of messing about with stuff that needs processing before you can ferment it
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[jmc]

Don't think you can boil potassium sorbate off. I'd stick to the 100℅ AJ

[fatbloke]

Don't think you can boil potassium sorbate off. I'd still to the 100℅ AJ

That's as I understand it too (along with sodium benzoate).

If they'd just used ascorbic acid, then it'd be no problem.

Plus if you heat up apple juice, you'd end up with a "cooked" flavour.......

[afur130173]

I like to experiment with different juices. I am pretty sure you can get rid of potassium sorbate by simmering for 15-20 minutes. It doesn't impact the flavouring too much. I like to make brews as cheap (and cheerful) as possible and thought this might be better than those budget brand diluting juice as won't need to add sugar.

[Nikster]

If you can't boil them off, then surely the robinsons brews would never work, which clearly do and they probably have more crap in to boot.

[Geezah]

Vimto cordial contains potassium sorbate and I have never had a problem brewing vimto wine down to .998 after a 20 minute simmer.

[afur130173]

Yeah I have done vimto and Robinsons. No reason why this one wouldn't work just wondered if anyone had tried it.

[afur130173]

I decided what the he'll and chucked it in a pot and simmered it. If it ferments ok then it should come out at 5% which will do me nicely. Was lovely and clear untill I added the yeast.

[jmc]

I decided what the he'll and chucked it in a pot and simmered it. If it ferments ok then it should come out at 5% which will do me nicely. Was lovely and clear untill I added the yeast.

I hope it goes well. Keep us posted on how you get on with it.

[afur130173]

Fermentation has started within a few hours so looking good already.

[Mitchamitri1]

It'll be fine if you boiled it but there is now the sorbate residue so expect hangovers !

[LeeH]

Vimto cordial contains potassium sorbate and I have never had a problem brewing vimto wine down to .998 after a 20 minute simmer.

Vimto wine!!

Recipe please!!!!

Lee.

[Geezah]

Vimto cordial contains potassium sorbate and I have never had a problem brewing vimto wine down to .998 after a 20 minute simmer.

Vimto wine!!

Recipe please!!!!

Lee.

3.75l apple juice
0.75l vimto cordial
800g sugar (makes it about 10% abv add or deduct 100g per 1% abv)
tsp of wine tannin or 1 very strong mug of black tea
tsp of citric acid
tsp of yeast vitamins or a crushed vit b1 tablet
tsp of wine yeast

simmer the vimto cordial for 20 minutes to kill of the sulphites and allow to cool
get all the ingredients except for 0.75l of apple juice into a DJ and leave @ 21c for 10 days ( after the primary vigourous ferment has died down (about 4 days), add the remaining apple juice)
rack to secondary and allow to clear
rack to another dj prior to bottling, put a cap on the dj and shake like hell several times over the next 2 hrs to de gas the wine.
Bottle and enjoy.

[afur130173]

An alternative is to remove Apple juice and add water. Makes 5l nicely. As said 100g sugar gives about 1% abv on a 5l batch. Not best brew in the world but cheap and cheerful.

I've used Tesco value diluting juice in past with this method. Very cheap and cheerful.