Duvel

[gr_baker]

Anyone got a good Duvel recipe? I'm not convinced by the one in "Clone Brews". Pear extract in a beer?

I'm thinking that it's probably quite a simple brew. Perhaps 85% Belgian PaleMalt and 15% sugar. With Stryian Golding and Saaz for hops.

Any thoughts gratefully accepted.

[Vossy1]

I've personally found clone brews to be pretty good at replicating beer tastes. Certainly not a bad staring point anyway.
You could always use yeast and/or temperature to impart the ester profile that you want.

[mysterio]

The recipe from Brewing Classic Styles is (6 US gallons) 1.072/32 IBUs, 5 kilos of continental pilsner malt mashed @ 65C, 1.36 kilo of white sugar, Saaz for bittering, WLP570 yeast pitched at 18C and raised to 28C over a week.

[oblivious]

also the yeast will be a major issue, that pear ester are supposed to be specific to the yeast WLP570 Belgian Golden Ale Yeast or 1388 Belgian Strong Ale Yeast .

The only real difference between triple and strong golden ale is the yeast profile, more phenolic for triple esters with strong golden

[ashbyp]

Quite a nice rundown of the Duvel brewing process on their site.

http://www.duvel.be

Select No Flash, and International then brewing process from the menu.

"The beer stays in the "warm cellars" for 10 days where bottle conditioning (secondary fermentation) occurs at 24°C. Finally, the beer stays in the "cold cellars" for another 6 weeks at a temperature of 5°C, a unique procedure worldwide, allowing the taste and aroma of the beer to become more sophisticated and refined."

Is cold conditioning in bottles a unique process world wide?

[gr_baker]

Hmmm...WLP570 eh? I had suspicion that it would be down to using a liquid yeast. I've not had much success with the Wyeast ones I got from my local homebrew shop. In fact I gave up after only getting 1 successful brew out of 7 last year. So I'm sceptical about them. Maybe I'll give it a go again with White Labs. I can't see any of my usual suppliers that stock WLP570. Any ideas?

Russell

[johnh]

I believe Duvel yeast can be propagated from a bottle, if you're into that sort of thing. Also, I would personally use lager malt for a Duvel clone: to me the malt taste is quite pilsner-like and the colour is very light.

[mysterio]

Hmmm...WLP570 eh? I had suspicion that it would be down to using a liquid yeast. I've not had much success with the Wyeast ones I got from my local homebrew shop. In fact I gave up after only getting 1 successful brew out of 7 last year. So I'm sceptical about them. Maybe I'll give it a go again with White Labs. I can't see any of my usual suppliers that stock WLP570. Any ideas?

Russell

Hop & Grape stock it. Did you make a starter with your wyeast? Theres no reason why you can't make excellent beer with the liquid yeasts but they do take a bit of preperation.

[BarryNL]

Hmmm...WLP570 eh? I had suspicion that it would be down to using a liquid yeast. I've not had much success with the Wyeast ones I got from my local homebrew shop. In fact I gave up after only getting 1 successful brew out of 7 last year. So I'm sceptical about them. Maybe I'll give it a go again with White Labs. I can't see any of my usual suppliers that stock WLP570. Any ideas?

Russell

Hmm, I've never had any problems with Wyeast in over a dozen brews - and I've used a few that have been over six months old. Maybe your homebrew shop is not storing them in a fridge? Try mail ordering from Hop & Grape.