Saaz Hops in a recipe?

[Frisfur]

Hi
The boss wants a lagerish recipe

I cannot get the lager temps for a real Pils or lager

What do you guys think about using Sazz with lager malt in an ale recipe to get as near as possible
Shall I use s-05?

Any tips would be greatly welcomed

Thanks

Chris.

[DarloDave]

Lager malt, saaz, served fizzy and extra cold. no one will know

[Rookie]

What temps can you hit? Steam beer works well into the mid 60s f.

[booldawg]

I've brewed something similar to good effect as I also wanted a lager but dont have the temp. control.

I used Lager Malt, Hallertau and US-05. I've not used Saaz before but I guess it will give you the desired brew

[Matt]

Some good advice on a similar subject in this thread - see Chris x1's comment, I reckon the addition of some sugar to dry it out a bit is a good steer, it should help to give the crispness.

Or, if you are up for liquid yeast then a few of us brewed Kolsch last year and it was a favourite. Do a search in recipes.

[Frisfur]

Thanks Guys

I will try and give it a go..I want as few esters as possible and as much like a pilsner as possible
So do you reckin S05, notts or a lager yeast

[arturobandini]

If you're serving it chilled and fizzy then you can get away with pale malt and nottingham yeast...I know I have! I carb it up to lager style, run it though a flash chiller and it's a refreshing beer "in the style of" a lager. I've done them around 30 EBU which is about what Stella is I think and low on the aroma hops and the lager monsters quaff it without batting an eyelid.

[Frisfur]

If you're serving it chilled and fizzy then you can get away with pale malt and nottingham yeast...I know I have! I carb it up to lager style, run it though a flash chiller and it's a refreshing beer "in the style of" a lager. I've done them around 30 EBU which is about what Stella is I think and low on the aroma hops and the lager monsters quaff it without batting an eyelid.

Sounds just like what I need! May add a few sazz at the end to experiment, Cant have the lager lovers having it all their own way

[Hoppkins]

I made a recipe with 3/4 pale malt, 1/4 lager malt, saaz and a wee bit of fuggles and it was great.

No fancy lager yeast. Just SafAle.

[edit1now]

If you make a pale, hoppy beer which doesn't have obvious English hops in it like Fuggles, I don't think anyone would necessarily notice. Give a non-beer person a glass of Kölsch and they will say it's lager, despite the beer people knowing it's an ale. "Noble" hops like Saaz give decent lagers their defining aroma.