Unusually high efficiency
Unusually high efficiency
Just done an A/G brew and got an unusually high efficiency. Got an brew house efficiency of 85% I usually get 75%. Got all my grain (maris otter) fresh this week from Leyland Home Brew. I double checked the weight. Worked out the efficiency with my own program and Grahams Beer Engine, got the same answer.
The only thing I did different was instead of using DLS as per Brupack web site I used Gypsum and Calcium Sulphate as per Grahams Water treatment calculator. I cant imagine that made that much diffrence
The only thing I did different was instead of using DLS as per Brupack web site I used Gypsum and Calcium Sulphate as per Grahams Water treatment calculator. I cant imagine that made that much diffrence
Re: Unusually high efficiency
Gypsum is calcium sulphate
The calcium could well have made a difference. It is beneficial to virtually every step in the brewing process. I'm not a scientist so I won't try and explain why, read this instead: http://www.murphyandson.co.uk/BrewingAr ... tm#calcium
I personally noted higher efficiency (by a significant amount) when I started adjusting mash PH.
Do you usually get your malt from Leyland? Could it be that they crush the malt finer than your previous supplier?
Did you switch to a different sparging method, or sparging slower?
Where you using a different calculator for efficiency in your previous batches of beer?

The calcium could well have made a difference. It is beneficial to virtually every step in the brewing process. I'm not a scientist so I won't try and explain why, read this instead: http://www.murphyandson.co.uk/BrewingAr ... tm#calcium
I personally noted higher efficiency (by a significant amount) when I started adjusting mash PH.
Do you usually get your malt from Leyland? Could it be that they crush the malt finer than your previous supplier?
Did you switch to a different sparging method, or sparging slower?
Where you using a different calculator for efficiency in your previous batches of beer?
Re: Unusually high efficiency
its was Calcium chloride not Sulphate
Have been adjusting my water for a while. Have been using Brupak DLS and sometime PH5.2 as well. Sparging just as always.
I thing the Malt might be ground finer. There was a lot of white particals in the Gist that looked like quite fine.
I used 4.5 Kgs of Marris Otter and 0.25 Kgs of Crystal with a finished volume of 26 Ltrs with a finished Gravity of 1046

Have been adjusting my water for a while. Have been using Brupak DLS and sometime PH5.2 as well. Sparging just as always.
I thing the Malt might be ground finer. There was a lot of white particals in the Gist that looked like quite fine.
I used 4.5 Kgs of Marris Otter and 0.25 Kgs of Crystal with a finished volume of 26 Ltrs with a finished Gravity of 1046
Re: Unusually high efficiency
Addmittedly I have only just done my first AG brew, I also got my crushed malt from Leyland Homebrew and although im not realy being scientific I was verry supprised just how high the start gravity was even using slightly less grain than the recipie suggested, I think the grain from Leyland is very fresh, they have a high turnover of malt and its crushed to order, maybe this is the reason!
Re: Unusually high efficiency
Sounds like a finer grind that caused it then. Probably best to find a source of malt that you like and stick with it, so you help eliminate that variable
Re: Unusually high efficiency
I found out why I had such a high SG, It was not a super fresh malt or a super efficiant mash, it was simply me being careless, I assumed I had a 25 lilre frementer that turned out to ba 23 Litres, I was using too much malt.
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Re: Unusually high efficiency
As a point of interest, I popped into Leyland and bought 25 KG of Maris Otter. It was fresh in that morning (about 10 days ago)
John
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Conditioning... Doing what? Get it down your neck! ........
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Conditioning... Doing what? Get it down your neck! ........
FV 1............
FV 2............
FV 3............
Next Brews..... Trucker's Jack Knife
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Re: Unusually high efficiency
Further to the supply of MO from Leyland. I have now done 2 brews from the same batch of grain. Both have been exactly 85% efficiency! I have never used barley from anywhere else, so don't know if it would drop. As I said, this was fresh in that morning 

John
Drinking/Already drunk........ Trucker's Anti-Freeze (Turbo Cider), Truckers Delight, Night Trucker, Rose wine, Truckers Hitch, Truckers Revenge, Trucker's Lay-by, Trucker's Trailer, Flower Truck, Trucker's Gearshift, Trucker's Horn, Truck Crash, Fixby Gold!
Conditioning... Doing what? Get it down your neck! ........
FV 1............
FV 2............
FV 3............
Next Brews..... Trucker's Jack Knife
Drinking/Already drunk........ Trucker's Anti-Freeze (Turbo Cider), Truckers Delight, Night Trucker, Rose wine, Truckers Hitch, Truckers Revenge, Trucker's Lay-by, Trucker's Trailer, Flower Truck, Trucker's Gearshift, Trucker's Horn, Truck Crash, Fixby Gold!
Conditioning... Doing what? Get it down your neck! ........
FV 1............
FV 2............
FV 3............
Next Brews..... Trucker's Jack Knife
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Re: Unusually high efficiency
Hi Rab, is that a frying pan spatter guard I see there? Do you have any more pics of how it is fitted. I tried one, but it was 2cm bigger than the bottom of my boiler.
John
Drinking/Already drunk........ Trucker's Anti-Freeze (Turbo Cider), Truckers Delight, Night Trucker, Rose wine, Truckers Hitch, Truckers Revenge, Trucker's Lay-by, Trucker's Trailer, Flower Truck, Trucker's Gearshift, Trucker's Horn, Truck Crash, Fixby Gold!
Conditioning... Doing what? Get it down your neck! ........
FV 1............
FV 2............
FV 3............
Next Brews..... Trucker's Jack Knife
Drinking/Already drunk........ Trucker's Anti-Freeze (Turbo Cider), Truckers Delight, Night Trucker, Rose wine, Truckers Hitch, Truckers Revenge, Trucker's Lay-by, Trucker's Trailer, Flower Truck, Trucker's Gearshift, Trucker's Horn, Truck Crash, Fixby Gold!
Conditioning... Doing what? Get it down your neck! ........
FV 1............
FV 2............
FV 3............
Next Brews..... Trucker's Jack Knife
Re: Unusually high efficiency
Hello trucker it's a type of hop stopper it's basically 2 stainless sheaths attached to a 15mil copper manifold .I was getting slow runoffs as the hops were compacting so tight around the 15mil sheathed manifold.It's now working great since i added 2 pieces of 22mil copper pipe over the 15mil pipe.

( Old design that would give some problems )

( New design work's a treat )


( Old design that would give some problems )

( New design work's a treat )


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Re: Unusually high efficiency
Thanks Rab. The first pic threw me a bit. It looked like an old design of mine, but it was just the corner of the boiler creating an illusion. I now have a very similar design to yours. That's quite a collection of pics you have.......sorry I couldn't find the the one I asked for. Thanks again!
John
Drinking/Already drunk........ Trucker's Anti-Freeze (Turbo Cider), Truckers Delight, Night Trucker, Rose wine, Truckers Hitch, Truckers Revenge, Trucker's Lay-by, Trucker's Trailer, Flower Truck, Trucker's Gearshift, Trucker's Horn, Truck Crash, Fixby Gold!
Conditioning... Doing what? Get it down your neck! ........
FV 1............
FV 2............
FV 3............
Next Brews..... Trucker's Jack Knife
Drinking/Already drunk........ Trucker's Anti-Freeze (Turbo Cider), Truckers Delight, Night Trucker, Rose wine, Truckers Hitch, Truckers Revenge, Trucker's Lay-by, Trucker's Trailer, Flower Truck, Trucker's Gearshift, Trucker's Horn, Truck Crash, Fixby Gold!
Conditioning... Doing what? Get it down your neck! ........
FV 1............
FV 2............
FV 3............
Next Brews..... Trucker's Jack Knife