Innes and Gunn...any near recipes??

[delboy]

I was in Sainsburys last night and they are doing a limited edition run of an Innis & Gunn TRIPLE MATURED Oak aged beer. I had to try one and to be honest it is very similar to the standard Innis & Gunn, however they have been a lot more forthcoming on the side of the box it is in. Here's an extract of what they say:


"In this brew we combine the best ingredients from both Scotland and England - Optic Malt and Chocolate Malt grown in the Scottish borders and Goldings hops from the hop fields of Kent.
After brewing we filled the beer into American White Oak barrels{...}and left it there for an uncommonly lengthy maturation
Once we judged that the beer had absorbed the perfect degree of oak character, we emptied the barrels into a marrying tun, and let the maturation continue until the flavours from the individual barrels had blended together and mellowed to our satisfaction.
We then filled this batch into bottles, inside which the final, month-long maturation took place."

It says 99 days matured prior to release on the front of the box, so a reasonable guess would be a month for each stage of maturation.

I imagine the coming together of the flavours in the marrying tun after the oak maturation wouldn't need an extended time if its simply the mixing of the batches to get some uniformity (ie one barrel could be v. weak and one v. strong) hours or days would probably do the job.

[unclepumble]

What they don't tell you on the baloney, is that I&G has been made for years to clean out the barrels pre-filling with whiskey, then binned, until some bright spark decided they should refine it a little and sell it. I&G is essentially a waste product.

I will say a very palatable one, the hops will most likely be liquid "hopscotch" hop extract, as I&G is sold in clear glass bottles and therefore needs a hop addition that won't skunk, & I doubt they will waste money on hop flowers.

[mysterio]

I&G was pretty heavily skunked the last time I had it.

[kaymak]

Im thinking the base recipe could contain something like,

Palemalt,
Light Cryastal for colour and caramel tatse,
Chocolate for colour, 1% maybe

EKG 60 and 20 minute additions to abut 30 iby

Could be way off, maybe caramalt instead of crystal,

[Horatio]

What they don't tell you on the baloney, is that I&G has been made for years to clean out the barrels pre-filling with whiskey, then binned, until some bright spark decided they should refine it a little and sell it. I&G is essentially a waste product..

They now say that on the website but flower it up a little as a happy accident. I personally love the stuff!

[unclepumble]

I also love it, I would expect them to use optic malt, as this is usually the preferred malt used in the whiskey industry, maybe some crystal, but I would expect most of the colour to come from the barrels, and more than likely an amount of corn sugar to up the fermentable's .
If they do add hops it will more than likely be a single addition of pellets and adjusted to spec with tetralone or hopscotch IHE, pre bottling.

UP

[chris20]

Anyone had any luck with this yet???
I'm thinking of doing a bit of experimenting this week

[Invalid Stout]

I also love it, I would expect them to use optic malt, as this is usually the preferred malt used in the whiskey industry, maybe some crystal, but I would expect most of the colour to come from the barrels, and more than likely an amount of corn sugar to up the fermentable's .

Why would they be using Optic malt? It's not brewed at the distillery, so it's irrelevant what the whisky industry uses. The barrels aren't going to give the beer much colour either, they're not charred bourbon barrels.

[sargie]

I also love it, I would expect them to use optic malt, as this is usually the preferred malt used in the whiskey industry, maybe some crystal, but I would expect most of the colour to come from the barrels, and more than likely an amount of corn sugar to up the fermentable's .

Why would they be using Optic malt? It's not brewed at the distillery, so it's irrelevant what the whisky industry uses. The barrels aren't going to give the beer much colour either, they're not charred bourbon barrels.

Oak releases tannins does it not?

[alwilson]

All very interesting.

If you were to age in a wooden barrel (say for a month) - when would this take place, after fermenting is complete? Would you rack it off into the barrel, seal it up and just wait? Would it need to be modified to accept a COz valve?

Just wondered.

Alex

[Mattypower]

They reproduced this beer on ramsey f word last year sometime if you can google that you might be able to see what they put in that brew!!!!!!

[Mattypower]

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/gord ... od#2922837
Its in the second part they bottle the brew 2 or 3 from the last episode!!