Liquor treatment gives amazing yeast behaviour!

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Liquor treatment gives amazing yeast behaviour!

Post by guypettigrew » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:49 pm

Following some gentle encouragement from Fisherman on this site (thanks, buddy!), I treated my brewing liquor for the first time ever for my latest beer.

The effects have been quite astounding! The liquor was first treated with a camden tablet, then reduced to 40ppm CaCO3 using Brupak CRS, and Brupak "Burton water crystals" were mixed in with the dry grain.

The yeast head was the cleanest I've ever seen it, and really strong. It formed a proper rocky head, at least 10cm above the surface of the wort. The best fermentation I've seen for ages.

Having barrelled it after 9 days in the FV, it's dropped crystal clear after 3 days with no finings. It still hasn't conditioned fully, but it's getting there.

The yeast is a harvested, rinsed, White Labs 007. A very flocculant yeast, so it will be interesting to see what happens if I use a different type.

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Re: Liquor treatment gives amazing yeast behaviour!

Post by OldSpeckledBadger » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:19 pm

I always treat with CRS before dechlorinating. IRC that's what GW advises.
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Post by nobby » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:38 pm

Dont forget that CRS is only for Hard Water if like me your lucky to have Soft water you dont need it.

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Post by guypettigrew » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:06 pm

Yup nobby, also bought a Salifert test kit on fisherman's recommendation so I could find out exactly what I was dealing with, and how much CRS and dry salts would be needed.

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Post by haZe » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:30 pm

OldSpeckledBadger wrote:I always treat with CRS before dechlorinating. IRC that's what GW advises.
Interesting, i've always done it the other way round, Campden first.

Can you recall any reason for this?

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Post by Blackaddler » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:32 pm

haZe wrote:Interesting, i've always done it the other way round, Campden first.
Same here...
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Post by guypettigrew » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:22 pm

My camden tablet went in first. Someone on here recommended it so I just followed the recommendadtion.

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Post by jimp2003 » Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:42 pm

+1 for putting the campden tab in first. I too would be interested in knowing the reasons for doing it the other way round.

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Post by OldSpeckledBadger » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:34 am

Sodium Metabisulphite reacts with acids so if you dechlorinate first some of your CRS will end up reacting with the left over Sodium Met in solution instead of the Carbonate and you'll end up with a slightly higher alkalinity than you expected.
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Re: Liquor treatment gives amazing yeast behaviour!

Post by Blackaddler » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:40 pm

That sounds quite logical to me. I think I'll be changing my process...
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Post by haZe » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:59 pm

I'm brewing in the morning, will give it a go...ta!

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Post by fisherman » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:00 am

Thanks lads ,
I shall also use CRS first next time, Could beer get any better. Great site great information from you all, Merry Christmas to everyone.

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