Get advice on making beer from raw ingredients (malt, hops, water and yeast)
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gnutz2
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by gnutz2 » Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:37 pm
Nofolkandchance wrote:
No, this is of no use as gravity feed takes forever and filters will clogg up in no time. You would need a Buon Vino Super Jet. The super Jet does 23 ltrs in about 5 minutes. Ill post you some pics to show it in action.
Do you mean one of these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUy7z79oI5c
They cost £350

and 20 quid to rent!
I've used polyclar before now with success, i remember i only mixed it in a drinks bottle and it never seemed to totally dissolve but it did bring the beer very bright in a keg.
Only problem is i bottle my beers now and bright beer would mean no or little carbonation

i can see me getting a CP bottle filler soon

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by kebabman » Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:09 pm
A while ago I ran out of CRS water treatment and I treated my brewing liquor without it. For the first time I got no chill haze even at fridge temperature.
Now I never use the stuff, I wish I had stopped using it earlier as I spilt some down the side of my SS vessel and it is badly discoloured.
if you are using CRS, try one brew without it, it may be coincidence but I can't see what else I have changed.
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gnutz2
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by gnutz2 » Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:09 pm
kebabman wrote:A while ago I ran out of CRS water treatment and I treated my brewing liquor without it. For the first time I got no chill haze even at fridge temperature.
Now I never use the stuff, I wish I had stopped using it earlier as I spilt some down the side of my SS vessel and it is badly discoloured.
if you are using CRS, try one brew without it, it may be coincidence but I can't see what else I have changed.
Thats intresting, my water averages about 60ppm Caco3 and the last brew i did it measured 39ppm so i never used crs! i'll see how it fares in the fridge.
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by Naich » Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:58 pm
Some thoughts... I'd love a filter system but I can't afford it. I don't really want to start using finings like isinglass if I can help it because a) it's more hassle and b) it has a shelf life and I'd end up throwing 1/2 of it away.
So, it's plan B. I know I can get the yeast out by chilling it but then the chill haze sets in when it has been warmed up and chilled again. So I think I'll try to force the chill haze out so I can clobber it with Polyclar. I'm going to try chilling to 5C for 4 days, let it warm up to room temperature for 3 (the yeast should drop out then) and then chill back down to 10C before adding the Polyclar. Then leave it for 2 days and keg it - priming as usual on the assumption that there will be enough yeast left to fizz it.
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by Kev888 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:03 pm
Naich wrote:So I think I'll try to force the chill haze out so I can clobber it with Polyclar.
Sounds like its worth a try, to me! I believe commercially they chill to -1c before filtering; maybe something similar could work with fining.
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by NOZ » Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:22 pm
I had problems with chill haze....
to clear my beer i chill rite down to almost freezing to bring out maximum haze then mix a packet of beer bright with water and add it to the chilled beer.
i left this in the secondary for 2 days (still at close to freezing) then racked off.......crystal clear beer even at fridge temperature.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-Harris-Beer ... 2a069ffe54
ive used this about 5 times now and its never failed me, its a mixture of islinglas and silica, islinglas removes the yeast and the silica removes the chill haze.
Its all freeze dried so doesnt denature.
try a packet and see how it goes.
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by bosium » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:01 pm
If you're patient enough, chill haze will drop out with cold conditioning but it can take several weeks. If I want a beer crystal clear in less time, I use about 5g of polyclar along with 40ml of auxiliary finings, blend em up for a few minutes in about 500ml of boiled water and add that to an empty keg, then rack the beer on top of it and roll the keg around a bit to mix before putting it somewhere cool to settle. You can serve straight from the keg if you do it this way as long as you don't bump or move it. Obviously the first few pints will be cloudy but it should pour crystal clear after that.