Taste my beer

[Andy]

Awesome I'm in. Although as stated above our beer tastes like aids.

Good AIDS, Bad AIDS or Cat AIDS ?

[Belter]

Awesome I'm in. Although as stated above our beer tastes like aids.

Good AIDS, Bad AIDS or Cat AIDS ?

Beeraids

http://m.urbandictionary.com/#define?term=Beer%20Aids

[beernsurfing]

I bet you have under pitched the yeast on both occasions. Or you are using dried yeast. If you want good beer it's liquid yeast and the right amount of it. No question.

I use liquid yeast a lot, but i also still use dry. If you can't make good beer with dry yeast, it's not the yeast

[Eric]

I bet you have under pitched the yeast on both occasions. Or you are using dried yeast. If you want good beer it's liquid yeast and the right amount of it. No question.

I use liquid yeast a lot, but i also still use dry. If you can't make good beer with dry yeast, it's not the yeast

Using both I have to agree, whether liquid or dry, each yeast has its individual characteristics.

I confess to not knowing when brewing how much viable yeast is pitched, just a use by date and guidance on the container when it's fresh and a wild guess when repitching. Those beers take between 5 and 48 hours for a krausen to start forming suggesting a large variation in quantity pitched, but they never taste like AIDS or bad other than when going off through age and/or contamination.

My only advice would be to examine everything with which your water and beer makes contact and ensure they are clean and sanitised. I have no experience with new sterilisers, good cheap bleach gets me 100% success at less than 15p a litre and have no incentive to change.

[Belter]

I bet you have under pitched the yeast on both occasions. Or you are using dried yeast. If you want good beer it's liquid yeast and the right amount of it. No question.

I use liquid yeast a lot, but i also still use dry. If you can't make good beer with dry yeast, it's not the yeast

We can't make good beer full stop. The first one we did SNPA clone was awesome.

[beernsurfing]

If you made an awesome beer, then i don't think it'd be a water issue ( same water for all beers? ). If it is an infection, hit everything with a blend of vinegar + bleach, 1.5ml each in 1 litre of water. Leave it a few days then rinse out with hot water. It is quite good at killing nasty bugs. However, if in doubt, throw it out. Persistant infections can be a nightmare to get rid of, but you can get rid of them. Keep trying !!

As for underpitching, i do a 1 litre starter for ales with liquid yeast. Then, i either top crop ( highly active yeast, so half a cup is fine for the next batch ), or use the slurry from the bottom. A 600ml coke bottle is plenty, and within hours the new beer is fermenting vigorously. If the slurry is over a week old, another 1 litre starter, works fine. For big beers ( 6%+ ) i use half the yeast cake of the previous beer ( i try to keep it less than 5% ), and they fire up like crazy.

For dry yeast, i rehydrate as per instructions. No issues.

Fingers crossed you sort it out.

[Belter]

If you made an awesome beer, then i don't think it'd be a water issue ( same water for all beers? ). If it is an infection, hit everything with a blend of vinegar + bleach, 1.5ml each in 1 litre of water. Leave it a few days then rinse out with hot water. It is quite good at killing nasty bugs. However, if in doubt, throw it out. Persistant infections can be a nightmare to get rid of, but you can get rid of them. Keep trying !!

As for underpitching, i do a 1 litre starter for ales with liquid yeast. Then, i either top crop ( highly active yeast, so half a cup is fine for the next batch ), or use the slurry from the bottom. A 600ml coke bottle is plenty, and within hours the new beer is fermenting vigorously. If the slurry is over a week old, another 1 litre starter, works fine. For big beers ( 6%+ ) i use half the yeast cake of the previous beer ( i try to keep it less than 5% ), and they fire up like crazy.

For dry yeast, i rehydrate as per instructions. No issues.

Fingers crossed you sort it out.

Thanks for your help

I'll definitely try this. Reusing yeast is something I plan on sorting pretty soon. Stir plate is half built. Everything else is on the to buy list.

[Cozzyb]

Well, you have had some pretty good info in here to say noone has tried it to know, you didn't mention how you brewed and your sig mentions coopers so I guess kits, although grain brewing sub forum throwing me off.

I literally tried almost every kit that is sold, about 8 or 9 different ones. Hated everyone, all had off flavours, TCP, chemically, estery etc. Went to BIAB, not had a single beer off yet and I have done 6 now, with another 3 currently fermenting and brewing another one tomorrow. I sanitize with Saniclean and haven't changed anything from when I made kits except using grain now. Honestly if you make kits, stop now. Try extract kits (brewuk do some) and if you still don't like them, try BIAB only costs are equipment, which is a stockpot and a bag.

[Belter]

Well, you have had some pretty good info in here to say noone has tried it to know, you didn't mention how you brewed and your sig mentions coopers so I guess kits, although grain brewing sub forum throwing me off.

I literally tried almost every kit that is sold, about 8 or 9 different ones. Hated everyone, all had off flavours, TCP, chemically, estery etc. Went to BIAB, not had a single beer off yet an
d I have done 6 now, with another 3 currently fermenting and brewing another one tomorrow. I sanitize with Saniclean and haven't changed anything from when I made kits except using grain now. Honestly if you make kits, stop now. Try extract kits (brewuk do some) and if you still don't like them, try BIAB only costs are equipment, which is a stockpot and a bag.

Ff

We aren't using kits. It also says AG1 SNPA clone in my signature and I've spoke a lot about the otherclones we've attempted. Not sure you can really call kits a 'clone' rather than a 'kit'.


There definitely has been some great advice given on this thread which pin points me to an infection. I'll still send my beer off for a second opinion Justin confirm we aren't doing anything stupidly wrong. I am going to sanitize the s#@t out of my equipment and try again.

[Belter]

We've had a major result
Tonight. Cleaned my lines and tapped off the first Exor gold clone. No sign of off flavours. It's early days but I think ditching videne for starsan is the answer. Need to sanitize more effectively when using bottles. Although this doesn't prove it isn't a yeast problem as this was the first brew with liquid yeast

[beernsurfing]

Awesome!!. The only reason i prefer liquids for UK ales is the character, the liquid ale strains seem to have so much more character. I think i've tried at least 15 different Uk strains alone. Yum!. For US ales i don't bother with liquid, US05 dry works so well, and produces excellent beers.

[floydmeddler]

Great news!

I don't use chemicals anymore. I use a hand steamer for my fermenters and tubing.