Can I squeeze my hop bags?

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Martin G

Can I squeeze my hop bags?

Post by Martin G » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:11 pm

I have been using hop bags for a while, and I have been wondering if I can squeeze them to get some of the oils out of them? Thinking about giving them a few squashes against the side with my spoon.

When cleaning up there always seems to be lots of aroma and flavour left in the spent hops, hence my question, but would squeezing release unwanted flavours or otherwise cause a problem like inconsistency?

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Re: Can I squeeze my hop bags?

Post by micromaniac » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:36 pm

why not just leave them in for longer and make a note of the time in solution and go from there in your next brew

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Re: Can I squeeze my hop bags?

Post by greenxpaddy » Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:34 pm

The main problem you will find is microscopic hop particles clouding your beer. Best not to squeeze, just dry hop a little longer. When racking don't pull the bag out

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Re: Can I squeeze my hop bags?

Post by IPA » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:43 am

greenxpaddy wrote:The main problem you will find is microscopic hop particles clouding your beer. Best not to squeeze, just dry hop a little longer. When racking don't pull the bag out
Squeeze them by all means I have even sparged the hop bag in the past. You will not have any more particles than if you boiled them without a hop bag and transfered the wort through a hop filter.
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Re: Can I squeeze my hop bags?

Post by greenxpaddy » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:42 pm

Its my belief that hop particles from the boiler are either caught by irish moss prefilter or any that are present in the fermenter from day one are dragged in to the trub.

Particles caused by dry hopping after the main yeast drop stay in suspension.

That's what my experience has shown anyway. So I would not squeeze a dry hop bag.

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Re: Can I squeeze my hop bags?

Post by micromaniac » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:14 pm

greenxpaddy wrote:Its my belief that hop particles from the boiler are either caught by irish moss prefilter or any that are present in the fermenter from day one are dragged in to the trub.

Particles caused by dry hopping after the main yeast drop stay in suspension.

That's what my experience has shown anyway. So I would not squeeze a dry hop bag.
same here i post hopped at 50* last brew, left them for 1/2 hour and they would,t sink to the bottom of boiler

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Re: Can I squeeze my hop bags?

Post by IPA » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:12 am

Martin G wrote:I have been using hop bags for a while, and I have been wondering if I can squeeze them to get some of the oils out of them? Thinking about giving them a few squashes against the side with my spoon.

When cleaning up there always seems to be lots of aroma and flavour left in the spent hops, hence my question, but would squeezing release unwanted flavours or otherwise cause a problem like inconsistency?
I think this question refers to hops in the boil and not dry hopped ones
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Re: Can I squeeze my hop bags?

Post by darkonnis » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:12 pm

dont see any harm in squeezing. Think about it. It cannot be any different to them getting blasted round wit hthe convection current when you throw them in loose.
Regards dry hopping I disagree paddy, i dry hopped 20L with 100g not so long back and it was cloudy for a while, it now pours clear from the bottle 6 weeks on. I crash cooled for 2 days prior to bottling so theres barely any yeast left in suspension anyway. Or did you mean it wont clear in the fv?

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Re: Can I squeeze my hop bags?

Post by booldawg » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:25 pm

[quoteI have even sparged the hop bag in the past.][/quote]

I've not done this before but is this what the Americans refer to as 'first wort hopping' ?

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Re: Can I squeeze my hop bags?

Post by Martin G » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:10 am

Thanks for the posts, leaning towards giving the bag a squeeze on the next brew, will try and do it in a way that I can repeat or modify. I was thinking about the boiil when I posted the question, but interesting comments about dry hopping.

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Re: Can I squeeze my hop bags?

Post by ajclarkson » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:18 am

booldawg wrote:
I've not done this before but is this what the Americans refer to as 'first wort hopping' ?
I suppose it could be classed as that if it was done as part of the mash sparge, but the more general meaning of first wort hopping is to add the hops to the kettle and then rack the wort from the mash on top. That way the hops are in there while the kettle heats from mash to boil. Gordon strong claims it gives much more smoothness to the bittering than a more traditional 60 min addition
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