Which one to keg / bottle

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Rick_UK

Which one to keg / bottle

Post by Rick_UK » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:32 am

Hi fellas

I currently have 2 brews which will be finished at the same time. One is my first attempt at a pilsner, the other an IPA. I have one empty keg and plenty of bottles for 1 brew.

My dilema is which one to bottle and which to keg. I've read the lagering process works better in a keg rather than bottles but obviously the pilsner would be more true to style with the fizzy carbonation which comes with bottling and the IPA better from the keg.

Does it make a big difference lagering in bottles?

Any advice appreciated.

Rick

Matt12398

Re: Which one to keg / bottle

Post by Matt12398 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:26 pm

Corny keg or King Keg? IPAs keep their aroma better in bottles with less head space. If it's a King Keg it probably won't hold enough carbonation for a pilsner.

Rick_UK

Re: Which one to keg / bottle

Post by Rick_UK » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:07 pm

It's just a Young's budget keg - but it has been fine for ales so far.

Matt12398

Re: Which one to keg / bottle

Post by Matt12398 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:38 pm

Why not bottle the IPA and then lager in the keg like you suggest.

I've not done a lager or in this case pilsner but from what I understand you're not going to be carbonating the beer until the end of the lagering process. Lagering should be done under airlock not a pressurised sealed container. Therefore lager in the keg then once complete you can reseed with fresh yeast and bottle it. Hopefully at that stage you'll have more bottles as well.

I'm sure there will be someone along in a minute to give a better response.

Rick_UK

Re: Which one to keg / bottle

Post by Rick_UK » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:38 pm

I suppose another option would be to lager in the FV then bottle. Then I can keg the IPA.

Is lagering in the FV a big no no??

bob3000

Re: Which one to keg / bottle

Post by bob3000 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:42 pm

Lager in a keg/barrel, secondary or bottle. But don't serve the lager in a plastic barrel.

bigdave

Re: Which one to keg / bottle

Post by bigdave » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:21 pm

If you lager (the word simply means "store") the pilsner in the keg, you're still going to need bottles to put it in so would need to drink your IPA pretty sharpish.

Keg your IPA, lager your lager in the FV with the lid on somewhere cool for a couple of weeks and then bottle.

Rick_UK

Re: Which one to keg / bottle

Post by Rick_UK » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:28 pm

bigdave wrote:If you lager (the word simply means "store") the pilsner in the keg, you're still going to need bottles to put it in so would need to drink your IPA pretty sharpish.

Keg your IPA, lager your lager in the FV with the lid on somewhere cool for a couple of weeks and then bottle.
Thanks Dave this seems like the best option if leaving it on the trub isn't an issue.

Will I need to add more yeast when priming and bottling?

bigdave

Re: Which one to keg / bottle

Post by bigdave » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:01 am

I'm not a lager expert (I brewed a lager kit about 4 years ago and thats it) so don't know what the effects of leaving it on the trub would be. If you're concerned, you could maybe transfer it off the trub and into another FV.

Matt12398

Re: Which one to keg / bottle

Post by Matt12398 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:27 am

I would definitely move it to a secondary FV. Autolysis could become an issue from further weeks storage on the trub and would be even more noticable in a pilsner.

Rick_UK

Re: Which one to keg / bottle

Post by Rick_UK » Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:39 pm

Thanks guys i'll do this this eve and also keg the IPA.

Will I need to add more yeast when I bottle the Pilsner? I could wash and save some of the trub.

Matt12398

Re: Which one to keg / bottle

Post by Matt12398 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:33 pm

It depends on how long you lager for really. You want a million cells per millilitre to give proper carbonation (which can look clear in solution) but I've heard people have achieved affective carbonation after lagering and given enough time. If you store for a month of more you may want to add more yeast.

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