Standard fermentation for Lagers?

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Bailey

Standard fermentation for Lagers?

Post by Bailey » Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:36 pm

Just listening to a podcast where 2 Pilsners were brewed for comparison( One traditionally fermented and lagered and one fermented 'warm') and the conclusion was that there wasn't a lot of discernible difference.
Anyone got any expeience in this field??

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Re: Standard fermentation for Lagers?

Post by Rookie » Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:23 pm

Bailey wrote:Just listening to a podcast where 2 Pilsners were brewed for comparison( One traditionally fermented and lagered and one fermented 'warm') and the conclusion was that there wasn't a lot of discernible difference.
Anyone got any expeience in this field??
This would depend on the yeast. Wyeast says it's 2124 can be used to ferment up into the 70s.
I'm just here for the beer.

Belter

Re: Standard fermentation for Lagers?

Post by Belter » Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:02 pm

Were the guys on the podcast American or Czech? Lol.

I've never tasted a good Anerican Pilsner. Can anyone point me in the direction of one
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darkonnis

Re: Standard fermentation for Lagers?

Post by darkonnis » Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:11 pm

Brooklyn Lager is quite nice (not a pilsner but its a lager with actual flavour), this is supposed to be nice too: http://www.brewdog.com/product/left-han ... ar-pilsner

Belter

Re: Standard fermentation for Lagers?

Post by Belter » Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:10 pm

Actually I do like Sam Adams. I didn't like Brooklyn Lager. Like you say though a lager not a pilsner.

Invalid Stout

Re: Standard fermentation for Lagers?

Post by Invalid Stout » Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:39 pm

Belter wrote:Where the guys on the podcast American or Czech? Lol.

I've never tasted a good Anerican Pilsner. Can anyone point me in the direction of one
Victory Prima Pils is a very good pilsner.

Bribie

Re: Standard fermentation for Lagers?

Post by Bribie » Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:17 am

Traditionally lagers were brewed at low temperatures because they had low temperatures in the regions where they brewed the stuff. Continental Europe is a lot colder in the winter than the UK and other ale producing areas so they went with what they had, and the yeasts changed to accommodate lower temps. Conversely brewing was discouraged or banned during the Summer months.

It's interesting that some modern German breweries are now fermenting at 13 degrees, not 10-11, and lagering for less time, but still producing reasonable beers. I regularly do lagers at around 15 degrees average and they turn out fine - entering two in the August New South Wales competition so quite confident.

Some strains such as S-189 can go happily at 19 degrees, as done regularly by a Brisbane commercial craft (not megaswill) brewery.

mysterio

Re: Standard fermentation for Lagers?

Post by mysterio » Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:26 am

What podcast is that?

There are a lot of variables here. Were they compensating for the cooler ferment by pitching more yeast and oxygenating?

mysterio

Re: Standard fermentation for Lagers?

Post by mysterio » Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:26 am

What podcast is that?

There are a lot of variables here. Were they compensating for the cooler ferment by pitching more yeast and oxygenating?

Bailey

Re: Standard fermentation for Lagers?

Post by Bailey » Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:41 pm

Brewing network.... I'll have to see if I can find it

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