Saison - how low should it go

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Saison - how low should it go

Post by Chrissyr63 » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:04 pm

Hi,

I did a saison 2 weeks ago and when I checked the fg was down to 1.004 - is that normal?
It also smells a bit chemically - was going to bottle it and see how it goes.

Chris

AnthonyUK

Re: Saison - how low should it go

Post by AnthonyUK » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:10 pm

1.004 is well withing the range for a Saison. What was the fermentation temp and what yeast?

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Re: Saison - how low should it go

Post by Belter » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:55 pm

1.004 for me

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Re: Saison - how low should it go

Post by Chrissyr63 » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:11 pm

hi,

used a Mangrove Jack Belgian Saison and dd it at 28c (which was middle for what the packet suggested).


Chrs

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Re: Saison - how low should it go

Post by perryni » Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:02 pm

My Saison has been been fermenting for 7 days now and is down to 1.008 so not quite as low as you but in the same ball park, 1.004 is fine.

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Re: Saison - how low should it go

Post by Chrissyr63 » Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:44 pm

thanks all for the replies.
Well I bottled it all up yesterday and have put into a warm (13-14c) fridge for a couple of weeks. Will try a couple weeks after that and see what it tastes like. Was fruity and a bit 'medicinal' when I tried the last dregs.

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Re: Saison - how low should it go

Post by Jimmy321 » Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:06 pm

My saison's have finished at 1.002/1, I made 2 about 8% vol with about 8% sugar additions that reached 1.002 and an all malt 6%vol that reached 1.001 it took about 5 days to loose the last gravity points with the temp held at 28°C.

Yeast was Danstar Belle Saison.

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Re: Saison - how low should it go

Post by AnthonyUK » Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:14 pm

Chrissyr63 wrote:thanks all for the replies.
Well I bottled it all up yesterday and have put into a warm (13-14c) fridge for a couple of weeks. Will try a couple weeks after that and see what it tastes like. Was fruity and a bit 'medicinal' when I tried the last dregs.
I wouldn't start to ferment at 28°c personally as you will likely develop a lot of Belgian 'character' e.g esters and maybe fusels.
I start it off cooler and then let the temp ramp up after around 50% attenuation. You still get enough character without it being overpowering or unpleasant and the yeast fully attenuates.

perryni

Re: Saison - how low should it go

Post by perryni » Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:43 pm

Yes I started my Saison at 20c and raised it about 1c per day for the first 7 days, I am now leaving at that temp for the next 7 then cold crash then keg

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Re: Saison - how low should it go

Post by Chrissyr63 » Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:05 pm

I started at 24c I think and then raised to 28 after about 36 hours - I always brew at my holiday home and only there every other weekend hence having to set straight to 28c.
Might have to have another look at hacking my temp controller - that would be ideal.

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Re: Saison - how low should it go

Post by serum » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:02 am

That sounds fine. I agree that the starting temp seems high but some people get away with it. You'll find out when you sample it and can tweak your fermentation. You don't have to go really high with saison yeast to get a good flavour.

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Re: Saison - how low should it go

Post by Chicken Dipper » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:03 am

I used Mangrove Jacks Saison yeast in a Belgian before Christmas, I got the medicinal smell and taste, but it's mellowed right out. I thought it had soured so I was pleased to find after sufficient maturation it was actually a really nice beer

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Re: Saison - how low should it go

Post by Chrissyr63 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:30 pm

thanks for the replies - well just coming out of the 2 week warm carb (plastic bottle seem nice an hard so that seems to have worked) - will leave for another couple of weeks and try.
Chicken Dipper - how long did you have to leave for it to settle down flavour wise?

Chris

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