Messed up! Short boil length what will happen?

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Messed up! Short boil length what will happen?

Post by gobuchul » Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:10 pm

Messed up my hop additions.

Added my flame out addition at start of boil! :oops:

To stop the beer being way too bitter, I have decided to shorten the boil length to 30 minutes.

Any opinions of what will be the result?

daf

Re: Messed up! Short boil length what will happen?

Post by daf » Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:13 pm

What grain is it?

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Re: Messed up! Short boil length what will happen?

Post by brewboy4 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:31 pm

The beer will need special disposal. If you sent it to me I will arrange it for free!!!

What was the recipe?


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Re: Messed up! Short boil length what will happen?

Post by Piscator » Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:32 pm

gobuchul wrote: Any opinions of what will be the result?
Hazy beer.

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Re: Messed up! Short boil length what will happen?

Post by gobuchul » Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:42 pm

9.40 kg Pale Malt
0.30 kg Flaked Barley
0.20 kg Crystal Malt -240.0 EBC
100.00 g First Gold [7.50 %] - Boil 30.0 min 36.8 IBUs
70.00 g First Gold [7.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min 6.7 IBUs
130.00 g First Gold [7.50 %] - 0.0 min

It was a First Gold single hop pale ale, 40 litre batch.

This is what I did to try to sort my mistake out.

daf

Re: Messed up! Short boil length what will happen?

Post by daf » Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:04 pm

Keep boiling!

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Re: Messed up! Short boil length what will happen?

Post by BenB » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:18 pm

It's not a massive difference (130g vs 100). Options would include

1) do nothing, it's only 30% extra and the more you add the less IBUs you get... so you won't get 30% extra IBUs
2) add some DME or LME so the eventual OG:IBU ratio is the same (this may obviously take you off style)

I'd be tempted to add a packet of DME as a token gesture. The other thing which might work (not sure about this one!) would be to add some lactose at bottling so the FG:IBU ratio is the same.

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Re: Messed up! Short boil length what will happen?

Post by barneey » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:33 pm

I would just have treated it as a 60minute boil, so would have kept boiling, they are only 7.5% of 1st gold anyway.
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Re: Messed up! Short boil length what will happen?

Post by gobuchul » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:47 pm

That recipe and hop additions are what I changed to.

The original was to add 35g at 60 minutes and then some at 15, 10 and 5.

When I ran 100g at 60 through Beersmith it was at about 50 ibu. Way too bitter for this type of beer at 4.7% IMO.

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Re: Messed up! Short boil length what will happen?

Post by Fil » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:22 pm

made a similar cock up on my first ag brew spent ages weighing out all the different hops, and then had a blonde moment when it came to adding them as instead of adding the carefully weighed out portions i emptied the remaining bulk from each 100g pack into the brew and carried on oblivious for a good 30mins or so,, eventually the lil bowls of hops caught my attention out the corner of my eye and i went fishing in the boil with a sieve like a toddler at a rock pool..

after cupping out a good volume of the hops i then carried on with the brew..
(that wasnt the only screw up either.. a 5 gallon burco wont contain a 5 gallon boil)
The resulting brew was very bitter almost mouth pinching so, but i quaffed every pint with relish..

With a 30 min boil your OG will probably be lower than planned for, so it will effect the final strength but as long as it was over 1.030 it should be strong enough to maintain a shelf life,

And its unknown if the boil was sufficient to achieve the hot break but with todays well modified grains you probably did, but if not the only effect that will have is the beer wont have the best clarity. And as we all know the best cure for a less than crystal clear pint is to sup it from an opaque vessel ;)

I would lay odds that its gonna be a very quaffable pint
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Re: Messed up! Short boil length what will happen?

Post by gobuchul » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:54 pm

With a 30 min boil your OG will probably be lower than planned for, so it will effect the final strength but as long as it was over 1.030 it should be strong enough to maintain a shelf life,
It came up a bit short at 1040. Hopefully I will have a decent spring session ale from this....

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Re: Messed up! Short boil length what will happen?

Post by brewboy4 » Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:00 am

Fil wrote:made a similar cock up on my first ag brew spent ages weighing out all the different hops, and then had a blonde moment when it came to adding them as instead of adding the carefully weighed out portions i emptied the remaining bulk from each 100g pack into the brew and carried on oblivious for a good 30mins or so,, eventually the lil bowls of hops caught my attention out the corner of my eye and i went fishing in the boil with a sieve like a toddler at a rock pool..

after cupping out a good volume of the hops i then carried on with the brew..
(that wasnt the only screw up either.. a 5 gallon burco wont contain a 5 gallon boil)
The resulting brew was very bitter almost mouth pinching so, but i quaffed every pint with relish..

With a 30 min boil your OG will probably be lower than planned for, so it will effect the final strength but as long as it was over 1.030 it should be strong enough to maintain a shelf life,

And its unknown if the boil was sufficient to achieve the hot break but with todays well modified grains you probably did, but if not the only effect that will have is the beer wont have the best clarity. And as we all know the best cure for a less than crystal clear pint is to sup it from an opaque vessel ;)

I would lay odds that its gonna be a very quaffable pint
I think it will be fine , you could add a small amount of sugar to the FV to bump up the abv and you will have an IPA.

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