Mellowing with time.?? Or down the drain now?

[Deebee]

I guess it must be the yeast. I have only ever used s04 before and when it hits fg it never takes long to drop clear. Looking cv the description it does say that it is only medium so i hope a couple of weeks off the lee will help clear it.

[Scooby]

Wyeast 1968 floc is very high London ESB ale it should have dropped out by now

[Deebee]

Wyeast 1968 floc is very high London ESB ale it should have dropped out by now

Nope.

its cloudier now than when the wort went in. Check the pics of the cold break sampe in the original thread.

I have had it suggested to me on good authority tough to leave the fv alone for the next week, then bottle\keg it and leave for another 3 weeks. if its still stinking then... down the oilet it goes.

In the mean time i best get some stuff in for a back up brew next weekend.

I was aiming to use US 05 yeast in order to get some hoppy taste. think i'll just stick with the s04.

I don't even think i'll save this yeast in the bottom of the FV. it took a very long time to get going and has not fropped clear so i am assuming its not so good......

in the loo that ges too after next week.

Then when the next brew day comes around i am sterilizing absolutely everything there is to sterilise- in both boilingwater and then cleanser.
Bugger this was the chistmas beer.

The one next week will be around the 1058 mark so likely not ready til new year! damn!

[Mountain]

Doesn't sound like overhopping is the issue then!
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If you get a brew on the go this weekend, you'll have something ready on time surely?

[Deebee]

Doesn't sound like overhopping is the issue then!
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If you get a brew on the go this weekend, you'll have something ready on time surely?

Am waiting for an order to arrive.

Am awaiting BOBEk from paul, but have also ordered some Styrian goldings ( i am guessing a relative) from hop and grape.

Got the other hops from Eirhops.com. great deals too actually. All pellets for the time being but thats not so bad is it?

So i can't brew til next weekend.

I have the recipe sorted out, and have approval from the war office ( she appreciates the need to serve something decent to guests over christmas and not the brown fizzy dishwater they call christmas beer here) to brew next week.

I have had efficiency trouble the last few times ( apart from the one that is suspect) so have based the recipe on 65%. IF i get 74 like last time or even more then we will have rocket fuel at around 7.5% so i might end up with more beer than expected.

I was going to use safeale 05 to try to get the hops though a bit more, but to be safe i'll use 04. I can always dry hops for a few days after fermentation is finished to give a nice aroma.
thanks for the support guys.

[Mountain]

Not sure if you want to hear this if it's not down to overhopping but....
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Just opened one of my overhopped ales and it has really mellowed into a very nice brew.
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BTW Just bottling my bobek beer and it's got a great flavour and aroma. I'm liking these bobek hops

[Deebee]

I spoke with paul at BB regarding this as it was him that actually set the recipe. He seems to think the taste is a combination of the yeast and the Crystal hops and that it will be fine in a few weeks. Had a looik at one of the clear bottles today, there is an amount of yeasr altready in the bottom. it appears that there is a lot of yeast in suspension. I'll be moving some of thebttles somewhere cold in about 3-4 days and leave some warmer. taste test in araound 3 weeks.

[chris_reboot]

the cold storage should make a big difference to the clearing.
stick it out!

[196osh]

Never heard of such a thing as overhopping.

[ADDLED]

I agree with the advice to stick at it and be patient. Sounds like you were careful to minimise infection so let's assume it isn't bugged.
FWIW I leave mine in FV for at least 2 weeks then straight to keg for conditioning. The extra time lets the yeast clean up and it makes a difference to the end beer. I experimented with racking to secondary but decided there was no benefit for the extra hassle and risk.
Good luck deebee I hope it turns out a great beer and rewards your trouble.

[Rookie]

If the problem is too much hopiness it will fade with time. I had an English style barleywine get a modest score because it was too hoppy. I entered it again the next year and got second highest score out of 119 entries.

[Deebee]

This is the whole question.

i have bottled some of this not, one in a clear glass bottle. There is a fair amount of yeast that has settled out in the bottom and i wonder if when the fermentation got going there was a lot of yeast in suspension.

The brew is still as unclear as it was, so i shall be moving some to a cooler place in the course of this evenig. Maybe this will make the yeast drop out.

I am of the opinion it is not infected, i think that the crystal hop is maybe a hefty one and that this needs time to calm. We watch and ait... and hope for the best!

[Deebee]

This has been botled for about a week now so i thought i would see if there was any change at all.

It is carbonating nicely although it is still as murky and th harsh bitteness is still there.

I guess i'll leave it another 3 weeks then have another go... then bye bye and straight down the loo i guess

[Deebee]

Leave it for a week in the FV. Keg it, if you can, and leave for about 3 weeks, then assess again. Some yeast tastes absolutely awful, and you can't gauge a beer EDIT-"properly" until its very clear.

And so the latest update on this one.

I have kegged and bottled this one. One of the bottles is basically a plastic coke bottle that i will use to check how it is clearing.
It has stood in 18-19 degrees for coming up to 14 days now and there is an amount of sediment dropping out.

The brew is still cloudy but when held up to the light I can see that there are differing layers of clarity there.

Seeing as i need the space for the winter warmer that is ready to bottle i shall be moving it somewhere cooler ( its around zero here at night, so the garage will be around 5 degrees). I would hope that in the course of the next couple of weeks this will drop bright for me..

I can only think that there was an awful amount of yeast in suspension. a sneaky taste yesterday still bought bitterness but not the harshness of earlier.

if this is still not cleared and tastes the same in another 4-5 weeks then i'll chuck it. Lest hope time is a great healer!

[196osh]

I wouldn't worry about it clearing in your thought process with regards to wither or not you should chuck it.

As you say the harshness is less now than it was. So I would bet that would calm down over time.