Crouch Vale Amarillo recipe wanted

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Re: Crouch Vale Amarillo recipe wanted

Post by seymour » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:46 pm

UPDATE: just to let everyone know, I mis-typed the White Labs number in my original post. I have corrected the yeast info as follows, but my mistake was quoted in several replies.

YEAST: the historic Ridley brewery English ale strain, still in use by Crouch Vale and Wibblers breweries, among others, possibly available as White Labs WLP022 and BrewLabs Essex/Essex IPA.

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Re: Crouch Vale Amarillo recipe wanted

Post by Dennis King » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:34 pm

As I said earlier I have some live Crouch Vale yeast, my last 4 brews have used it and have to say it acts different to the Whitelabs Essex yeast that I've used several times. Both are true top croppers and do appreciate the live brewery yeast is always going to be superior. As I write I'm drinking a beer brewed with the live yeast and feel it's a lot better than the beers I brewed with the whitelabs yeast, although I would never knock the whitelabs yeast. I guess as my water is the same as both Crouch vale and Ridleys helps but it does make me wonder if whitelabs adjust the strain in some way. Speaking to the brewer at CV he told me they never wash the yeast just re use it time after time pitching within a week of harvesting.

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Re: Crouch Vale Amarillo recipe wanted

Post by Dennis King » Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:28 pm

Some picturesof the old Ridleys brewer for you Seymour.

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Re: Crouch Vale Amarillo recipe wanted

Post by orlando » Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:42 am

andyCo wrote:
orlando wrote:
seymour wrote:Crouch Vale Amarillo
OG: 1050
ABV: 5.0%
IBU: 35
Grainbill: 93% Pale, 7% Wheat Malt
Early hops: none!?
Late hops: Amarillo (large quantity "hop-bursted" at 15 min)
COLOUR: 2°SRM/4°EBC
YEAST: the historic Ridley brewery English ale strain, available as White Labs WLP024

Quickly banged this into BeerSmith and found the "large quantity" I would need is 70g of Amarillo Gold at 10.9% AA to get the IBUS with just 15 minutes of isomerisation. So this is quite interesting as an experiment in hop bursting and not as many hops as I feared. Do you know if there is any dry hopping done either in fermentor or keg?
Has anybody brewed this up yet, I recently had a few bottles of this and its a very nice beer :D
If I get a chance over the weekend I might get this on.
Orlando... is it 70g of amarilo at t-15mins for a 23l brew size.
I only live about 20mins for the brewery but I never been down there so don't feel I can just turn up and ask for some yeast ...thinking of using us-05 instead.

Thanks in advance


Andy

Hi Andy, I was "brewing" this to 25 litres and yes 70g at 15 minutes gives me 34.6% if you believe all this IBU stuff.
I am "The Little Red Brooster"

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Re: Crouch Vale Amarillo recipe wanted

Post by paulg » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:29 pm

Dennis those pictures bring back fond memories.
I remember going there in the late 70's early 1980's at the time the head brewer was a man who walked with the aid of a walking stick due to a bad leg I think his name was tim aithinson or something like that.
I remember him telling us the THE ONLY STAINLESS STEEL YOU WILL FIND IN THE BREWERY IS IN THE TOILETS all the fermenters were copper and the barrels still wooden then.
I have tried brewing the bitter clone from this site with a good degree of success ,just need the proper yeast.I want to try the mild recipe too although I think it is the old Tolly Cobbold recipe as brewed towards the end .
regards Paul
sorry about taking this further off topic
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Re: Crouch Vale Amarillo recipe wanted

Post by andyCo » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:37 pm

Orlando, Cheers Bud :D

Andy

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