yeast prices

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Re: yeast prices

Post by barney » Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:16 pm

Spud395 wrote:Whats your process barney, spoon into lunch box, I guess :D
That was my first couple of attempts Spud but I have refined it a bit and production has gone up. :D ITs great fun to mess around with it. All in all the harvesting is done in less than a minute I would guess. Sterilising the spoon and sandwich box takes a bit longer.
MY Procedure(not saying this is necessarily the only way or even the best but it has worked well for me).

Second day I cut back the foam, I do this by moving the spoon edge on through the barm, kinda like a knife movement( i try not to disturb the liqour). The volume of the barm more or less halves after a minute or so of that, Then I skim the barm off into a bucket and throw it away.

Next day the barm is far thicker(yeast wise) and is almost a pellicle, as there is less co2 in it to bulk it out, the skim off that(into the sterilised sandwich box) has been delivering 200ml of Solid yeast by the time it settles. MR Malty reckons 60ml is enough for 25ltr at four day old. Of course you have to adjust the slidey things to "thicker" yeast and "no" dead cells. :D

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Re: yeast prices

Post by Spud395 » Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:27 pm

I'll give it a go barney, I did try it once with wlp300 and it went a treat, but I never seen so much yeast on top of a brew with any other yeast.

I do re-use yeast all the time, this just seems a much cleaner way to do it

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Re: yeast prices

Post by barney » Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:44 pm

Spud395 wrote:I'll give it a go barney, I did try it once with wlp300 and it went a treat, but I never seen so much yeast on top of a brew with any other yeast.

I do re-use yeast all the time, this just seems a much cleaner way to do it
I am using US05 at the moment, today I needed 378 billion cells for 10 gallon at 1046 with 1 week old slurry with a viability of 82% I only needed 98ml. I pitched 450 billion and threw the rest away.LOL.

Thats the hard part throwing it away, it just goes against the grain. :D But there will be another shitload come Friday.

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Re: yeast prices

Post by barney » Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:43 am

I remembered this thread as I saw the FV start to overflow so had a quick scrimage with it.

Full on Foamy barm
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Skim with Large Spoon into suitable receptacle.
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Collecting Bucket(this is for throwing away)
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Leaving behind a far denser creamy head.
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I will let the foam settle and give an indication of the yeast quantity later on, before I chuck it.

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Re: yeast prices

Post by Goulders » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:00 pm

How long does it keep in the fridge?

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Re: yeast prices

Post by barney » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:30 pm

Should last months, I have several yeast samples over 6 months old. The Viability decreases with time though.

Last time I checked for a top cropped sample, the pitch rate for two week old yeast only increased by about a third IIRC.

You can get an exact figure and and age calculating thing on Mr Malty.

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Re: yeast prices

Post by barney » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:38 pm

This mornings endeavours produced about 150ml of slurry. I would say that its Mid range on the Thin/Thick scale.

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Re: yeast prices

Post by charliefarley » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:34 pm

If you're in to making bread don't throw away that first bit of barm.
Mix it up with some flour to a yoghurt like consistency, then leave overnight. Next morning add more flour and water to make a dough and bulk ferment for three or four hours before shaping and proving four about five hours - depending on the yeast and the temperature.

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Re: yeast prices

Post by Spud395 » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:11 pm

Nice one barney

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Re: yeast prices

Post by koomber » Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:30 pm

I was caught out on the run up to Christmas when one of my slants completely failed to provide any yeast, so I pitched on some London Ale yeast from an earlier ferment. I collected the yeast and split it in two. One went into the new brew and the other went int the fridge. The brew went like a steam train. Very ferocious ferment!

Got the fridged sample chugging away with some starter wort just to get it's attention and then it'll be getting used for a brew!

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Re: yeast prices

Post by Martin G » Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:00 am

I have been using brewlabs slant (tv2). Put the whole lot in the first brew and then bottle some when transferring to the keg. Then using the yeast from the bottles for subsequent brews. Got the yeast book for Christmas and realise I am being a little rough and pitching all sorts of different yeast numbers, which affect health etc. But it has worked for me and the beers of a type have not changed within my perception. Do fancy top cropping and storing on slants though. Need to get a lab area together for that, thinking of making some sort of little cabinet. BTW isn't the book 'Yeast, the Practical Guide to Beer Fermentation' by White and Zainasheff a good read.

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Re: yeast prices

Post by Spud395 » Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:05 am

Martin G wrote:I have been using brewlabs slant (tv2). Put the whole lot in the first brew and then bottle some when transferring to the keg. Then using the yeast from the bottles for subsequent brews. Got the yeast book for Christmas and realise I am being a little rough and pitching all sorts of different yeast numbers, which affect health etc. But it has worked for me and the beers of a type have not changed within my perception. Do fancy top cropping and storing on slants though. Need to get a lab area together for that, thinking of making some sort of little cabinet. BTW isn't the book 'Yeast, the Practical Guide to Beer Fermentation' by White and Zainasheff a good read.
Just flicking yet and yeah been doing all kinds of things wrong, looks like an interesting year ahead :lol:

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Re: yeast prices

Post by NOTCraigTube » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:48 pm

akka lakka wrote:hi i can not understand why a packet of safe lager yeast costs more than a 100 gram pack of hops,i use worcester hop shop for my goodies and even the safe ale 04 has gone up,am i just being tight fisted and having a winge i am going to have to place my order soon as stocks running low i will just have to pay up and look happy,wonder what other brewers think of yeast prices
Hi friend,

thanks for posting

Take my advice, Use a Coopers kit yeast. They work floorlessly and provide a great bite with a solid sediment.

crystal clear great tasting home brew beer AND you will have a free kit :D

Thanks

Craig

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Re: yeast prices

Post by vacant » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:00 pm

CraigTube wrote:Use a Coopers kit yeast. They work floorlessly and provide a great bite with a solid sediment.

crystal clear great tasting home brew beer AND you will have a free kit :D
Can we expect some free kits from you? Given that 85% of your posts promote Coopers.
I brew therefore I ... I .... forget

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Re: yeast prices

Post by NOTCraigTube » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:37 pm

vacant wrote:
CraigTube wrote:Use a Coopers kit yeast. They work floorlessly and provide a great bite with a solid sediment.

crystal clear great tasting home brew beer AND you will have a free kit :D
Can we expect some free kits from you? Given that 85% of your posts promote Coopers.
No, I was making a joke. When you buy a kit you get free yeast. I was playing on that by saying when you buy yeast you get a free kit

Thanks

Craig

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