back liquoring?

[DaveGillespie]

Phil - it turned out well, to tell you the truth I haven't had a pint of the Hare since. I did a re-brew of the first batch and moved some hop additions later. I would say probably say 25g Cascade + 25g EKG at 5 minutes plus the same again steeped when the wort hits 80C for 30 minutes to an hour. I'll probably be brewing it again, but I've been following the same schedule and grain bill with Flyer for a couple of batches with excellent results also.

[PhilB]

Hi Dave

Thanks for the feedback ... sounds good ... and I just happen to have some Flyer in and have been wondering what to do with it ... when you say "same schedule and grain bill with Flyer" ... do you mean in place of the Cascade, or the EKG, or both?

Cheers, PhilB

[DaveGillespie]

In place of the whole lot - the First Gold, Cascade and EKG. My Flyer was the 10.9%AA from Malt Miller, and I think I went something like this (I'll check when I get home):

30g Flyer (10.9%AA) - FWH
35g Flyer (10.9%AA) - 5 mins
35g Flyer (10.9%AA) - steep at 80C for 1 hour

That was the plan, but in both the batch that has been sacrificed to the gods and the one that is to be bottled this weekend I got distracted and the steep happened around 65C. Still plenty of hop flavour as you would expect with that amount, but not the same punch when fresh as the Cascade/EKG combo. Which will either be down to the steep temp or the Cascade just being a more in-your-face American type of hop. Still, it was good enough for me to brew a second time. Grain bill was 4.2kg Maris Otter, 200g Carapils and for the first batch I chucked in 20g of Chocolate, didn't bother with it this time. Mashed at 67, fermented with Nottingham at whatever was the ambient temperature - I'm trying not to worry too much about fermentation temperature until I get set up with a fridge at the end of the year.

[PhilB]

Hi Dave
Thanks for that ... and look, it uses a whole pack of hops

Dave (bigdave), sorry once again for the intrusion in your thread ... you can get on with talking about liquoring back now though

Cheers, PhilB