Crushed grain shelf life

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Re: Crushed grain shelf life

Post by Underground Joe » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:34 pm

I bought one of those blue storage bins, sixty litres, and it holds a twenty five kilo sack perfectly.

Cazamodo

Re: Crushed grain shelf life

Post by Cazamodo » Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:40 am

Dave S wrote:
wilsoa11111 wrote:these guys are good for mash kits, in that u decide what u want exactly, they also just added a load more hops to the selection, also excellent service if they mess up they make it right and more -also my local but have just massively expanded due to volume of orders:
http://www.brewstore.co.uk/mash-beer-br ... 2321-p.asp
They seem a tad more expensive than many, certainly the ones I normally buy from.

Where would you suggest? I'm looking out for these at a cheaper price than that link.

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Re: Crushed grain shelf life

Post by orlando » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:40 am

Underground Joe wrote:I bought one of those blue storage bins, sixty litres, and it holds a twenty five kilo sack perfectly.
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Your quite right I wasn't specific enough about the size of the barrel just the style of it. They are the gold standard and I just pour the whole sack into it knowing that I don't have to worry about it, a bin with the grain kept in the sack is a perfectly good compromise.
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Re: Crushed grain shelf life

Post by pumblechook » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:47 am

Cazamodo wrote:
Dave S wrote:
wilsoa11111 wrote:these guys are good for mash kits, in that u decide what u want exactly, they also just added a load more hops to the selection, also excellent service if they mess up they make it right and more -also my local but have just massively expanded due to volume of orders:
http://www.brewstore.co.uk/mash-beer-br ... 2321-p.asp
They seem a tad more expensive than many, certainly the ones I normally buy from.

Where would you suggest? I'm looking out for these at a cheaper price than that link.
I just bought a load of stuff from worcester hop shop. They have a great range of mash kits, most are a tenner, and I couldn't beat the price for separate grains, hops and yeast when I compared to the other popular sites, such as the malt miller- who I'm told also offers an excellent service and whose prices are also both equally reasonable and broadly comparable to whs. regardless of who you go with, you need to be prepared to spend 30 to 40 quid to make the best use of the postage cost. The postage on my last order offered 30kg for 7.50, my order weighed in at about 29.3!!

Brew store have a great offer but 4kg of grain isn't really enough to do a 23 litre brew as far as I can tell, especially if you're aiming for over 4.5 percent.. I think they have quite a clever offer as it encourages you to spend extra on speciality grains. Also, only one variety of hops means you would likely have to buy more hops. If they could do the same deal for 4.5 kg it would be a winner, even with only one variety of hops... I would take that on the chin but 2 50g packs would be better.

not affiliated to any of the above btw, these are just my observations from the research I've done recently.... Other malt vendors are available :D :D

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Re: Crushed grain shelf life

Post by orlando » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:53 am

It's a pretty good offer for someone who already has a decent base of malts and hops and just needs a little extra for a specific brew. If I went to my LHBS for what they are offering it would cost twice as much and I would have to drive close to 50 miles round trip to get it. If I was being picky, well I am, the "packet of yeast" part of the offer needs to be a little more specific.
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Re: Crushed grain shelf life

Post by pumblechook » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:00 am

orlando wrote:It's a pretty good offer for someone who already has a decent base of malts and hops and just needs a little extra for a specific brew. If I went to my LHBS for what they are offering it would cost twice as much and I would have to drive close to 50 miles round trip to get it. If I was being picky, well I am, the "packet of yeast" part of the offer needs to be a little more specific.
I also agree that it's a good offer and was initially very tempted, not really trying to knock it... I just compared it to what I was trying to achieve and realised I'd have to plan especially carefully to ensure that I covered all bases, especially given that I'd be using it to stock up for the first time. Maybe next time, or maybe if I decided to brew something out of the ordinary compared to what I've already planned. I see what you mean about the yeast!

My lhbs averages around 20 quid for an all grain brew when buying ingredients from scratch and 2 hops are involved. Everything else is reasonably priced.

On another note, I checked on gum tree last night and there were some good sellers for those blue barrels. All sellers prices are very similar though. 22 quid or thereabouts seems to be the going rate for one of those, 30 quid with postage. I may yet be tempted! :D

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Re: Crushed grain shelf life

Post by orlando » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:11 am

I do understand the need to keep costs in check. I have kept a spread sheet list of all the capital items I have bought since going AG and although not one item has exceeded £100, the average being much much less, I am shocked by how much I have cumulatively spent (I have a vision of Barneey cringing as I write this). The compensation is that many of the items, things like this for example, are actually terrific value as they could last forever (unfortunately for the planet). I would like to think guys who have been AG for decades are brewing for next to nothing, I suspect they will correct me.
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Re: Crushed grain shelf life

Post by Dave S » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:24 am

Cazamodo wrote:
Dave S wrote:
wilsoa11111 wrote:these guys are good for mash kits, in that u decide what u want exactly, they also just added a load more hops to the selection, also excellent service if they mess up they make it right and more -also my local but have just massively expanded due to volume of orders:
http://www.brewstore.co.uk/mash-beer-br ... 2321-p.asp
They seem a tad more expensive than many, certainly the ones I normally buy from.

Where would you suggest? I'm looking out for these at a cheaper price than that link.
Yeah, WHS's prices are excellent, especially for the AG kits. I don't think you'll beat those prices. I'm just not too keen on bairds malt, which is the only one they sell. Brew UK also do kits but their prices are slightly higher. Nevertheless, I am tending to use Brew UK more and more these days as they have a great overall range of products at good prices.
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Re: Crushed grain shelf life

Post by critch » Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:15 pm

warminster say 3-6 months for crushed grain but as long as its not musty and crunchy NOT chewy your laughing. ive brewed with well stored 12 month grain with no problems.

however ive seen fairly new grain get damp and ergot is not something you want to introduce to your drink! :shock: :lol:

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