Trouble with local council!

[darkonnis]

Aye be a waste of money, you also have to remember that if you get a unit it may not come with the permissions required. Of course, I wouldn't inform them in any case but if they find out it is them who might "request" that you apply for planning. If you make their lives difficult it could very easily go one of 2 ways, and if you haven't got the funding to fight them, you won't come out on top. Unfortunately its money which wins court battles most of the time, not being "in the right". Just take the time to inform every newspaper, blog, interview, etc that you do that your local council tried to stop you creating a business which would give jobs to the local area. Which if you're taking a big step forward, will be the case. (even if you only employ 1 other person, and that person is your best mate )

[greenxpaddy]

This has been a huge mental set back in the last 24 hrs because I thought the planning dept had already ok'ed the current level of activity.

I was very depressed this morning. After a few of my beers in The Major which are going down well with all , I have realised this set back is a positive stimulator to action. It means I will have to take the big step forward. I will take time to go through all the plannig process of appeals etc but eventually in months from now I accpet I will be setting up in an industrial unit and going full hog. You heard it here first. No time to feel defeated. We shall win! Rise above the shit!

Spouted like a true idiot

Flippin heck. Had you been drinking too?

And who is Nick? Seemed to have missed something here. I think If I can find a very small unit, then the brewing itself can be done elsewhere.

[greenxpaddy]

Aye be a waste of money, you also have to remember that if you get a unit it may not come with the permissions required. Of course, I wouldn't inform them in any case but if they find out it is them who might "request" that you apply for planning. If you make their lives difficult it could very easily go one of 2 ways, and if you haven't got the funding to fight them, you won't come out on top. Unfortunately its money which wins court battles most of the time, not being "in the right". Just take the time to inform every newspaper, blog, interview, etc that you do that your local council tried to stop you creating a business which would give jobs to the local area. Which if you're taking a big step forward, will be the case. (even if you only employ 1 other person, and that person is your best mate )

You would hope that an industrial unit will be B2 usage approved.

[greenxpaddy]

There's another instalment yet on this one.

But I don't think it fair to post the details on this forum whilst those responsible for decisions have not yet completed the process. But watch this space.

[darkonnis]

Agreed mate, but I can tell you for certain that just because its industrial does not automatically mean that it will be B2 approved or that you will get it if you apply.
I know because the 2 brewers closest to me, haven't got it. Though our local council is happy to let it sit as no ones likely to complain and they aren't causing problems.

[greenxpaddy]

I think the crazy thing about this is, you don't know what your own planning team is going to decide until you sound them out. there is no continuity on this across the country. Because it's a big fat grey area where discretion sits with those who decide.

[alix101]

You can understand where a planning officer is coming from! They don't have the knowledge about the subject and they don't want to, all they see its somebody wanting to open a brewery in a domestic location! If they grant it how could it effect the neighbors and environment.And if they grant it what will stop you increasing production and expanding and when the complaints come in about the smell
Or blocked drains they will question who granted permission.
I do know someone who successfully registered there council house as a brewery as an experiment it was rather easy. Once you have planning involved your stuffed its a fight I have looked into it and as long as you pay vat/ duty , register.as a brewery and have a hygiene certificate (to cover yourself) you can sell beer. I probably would of accidentally not informed planning. If you are successful in going through planning you will have a commercial property with commercial rates its a lose lose ..I have a small office the council told me I could stock to domestic rates, but if they had wanted to they could of stiffed me for 1500 a year for my rates.

[greenxpaddy]

Already been assessed for rates and their assessment was 'no change'. Planning is the last hurdle.

[alix101]

I should of looked at the other pages

[greenxpaddy]

I can confirm that planning permission was granted yesterday for change of use of my garage to a small scale brewery. Woop - Woop!

No more red tape!!!

I am official and legal. Not that I wasn't before, in my own mind anyway.

for Bury Council who came to the right decision

[barney]

Nice one Matt, you must be over the moon.

[greenxpaddy]

Yep, a real weight off my mind.

[neilmcca]

Congratulations

Hopefully the next load of bottles i buy off you have something in them

[Scotsman]

Top banana mate, well done!

[oldbloke]

Great news