HOW MUCH OF EACH

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HOW MUCH OF EACH

Post by trucker5774 » Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:18 am

I'm back into my "first" AG next week after my last involvement 25 years ago! I'm seeing weights of grains and hops which I find a little "exacting" .............Grains 3748g (type A) ........319g (type B)----------------Hops 29 g (type A).....14g (type B). Does the 1 or 2 gramme difference really matter (do I need some new scales!) I'm finding it hard to believe it matters. I will be fascinated to find out it does, and why?
John

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Conditioning... Doing what? Get it down your neck! ........

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Re: HOW MUCH OF EACH

Post by Parva » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:08 am

It depends on how close you want to get to the original recipe and also on what your efficiency is and the alpha acid content of your hops are. You'll make good beer regardless.

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Re: HOW MUCH OF EACH

Post by Roger » Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:58 am

I think some of these weights occur when a recipe has been converted from imperial to metric.

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Re: HOW MUCH OF EACH

Post by vacant » Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:07 am

trucker5774 wrote:Grains 3748g
I'll join you in finding this sort of thing anally retentive. Anyone serious about such accuracy should be fretting about whether they are taking grain from the top of their 25Kg sack where there are more husks, or the bottom where there's more flour. Help! I feel the need for some software to adjust for this and a completely new shiny tool to analyse the "crush"! ;)
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Re: HOW MUCH OF EACH

Post by Northern Brewer » Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:23 am

vacant wrote:I'll join you in finding this sort of thing anally retentive.
Agreed 100%. I have similar reservations about precise temperatures, timings etc. I'm also about the only person on here who doesn't force cool and yet still manages to produce perfectly clear beer.

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Re: HOW MUCH OF EACH

Post by Northern Brewer » Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:22 am

When I first came across the 113g Morris Hanbury vacuum packed hops I treated them as I'd treat butter when baking and measure by volume rather than weight.

I'd therefore slice approx 20% off the end for my flavouring hops and use the remainder for bittering. When I eventually bought a pair decent set of scales it came as quite a shock to realise that these packs regularly hold 135-145g of hops; hence I'd been over-hopping by some 25% without realising. Needless to say, this left me quite a committed hop-head.

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Re: HOW MUCH OF EACH

Post by trucker5774 » Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:40 am

So far, so good, gents! Common sense prevails. As Chris says it only makes sense when you scale up to commercial quantities (or down from)..........just seems a bit odd when the recipe is actually written for 23 litres
John

Drinking/Already drunk........ Trucker's Anti-Freeze (Turbo Cider), Truckers Delight, Night Trucker, Rose wine, Truckers Hitch, Truckers Revenge, Trucker's Lay-by, Trucker's Trailer, Flower Truck, Trucker's Gearshift, Trucker's Horn, Truck Crash, Fixby Gold!

Conditioning... Doing what? Get it down your neck! ........

FV 1............
FV 2............
FV 3............
Next Brews..... Trucker's Jack Knife

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Re: HOW MUCH OF EACH

Post by Tequilla6 » Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:12 pm

A nice cheap pair of Jewel scales from E-Bay. I got mine for less than £10 to use it to measure the ingredients for the Water treatment mainly. I happened to do my first full water treatment yesterday and found them invaluable for the small amounts of salts that I need to add. It was the first time I can honestly say I hit the desired PH and I was happy.

As for the hops I concur that the rough and ready approach is OK as you only have a rough guide to the A.A of a hop from the test sample. With the transport and storage methods the degradation or freshness of the hops can never be guaranteed to be exact anyway.

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Re: HOW MUCH OF EACH

Post by Mitchamitri » Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:25 pm

Natural variation in any raw material means weights will never be spot on. As for temp i aim to get as close as possible so i dont waste any brews, and I force cool just because its a better use of my time.

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