Irish Moss or else?

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rick_huggins

Irish Moss or else?

Post by rick_huggins » Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:28 pm

I'm personally using Irish moss as I've still got 3/4 of a tub left but from visiting a few Micro's I notice along with the majority on here most are using protflac!

Are they that good and what are the main differences?

TIA

leigh1919

Re: Irish Moss or else?

Post by leigh1919 » Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:13 pm

Hi -

Never got round to using Irish Moss - after producing three crystal-clear brews wih WhirlFloc i saw no point changing!! excellent product :D

rick_huggins

Re: Irish Moss or else?

Post by rick_huggins » Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:01 pm

What's the difference between Whrilfloc and Protfloc then?

I think I may toss the Irish moss as it takes a good 4 weeks to clear for me

Graham

Re: Irish Moss or else?

Post by Graham » Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:09 pm

rick_huggins wrote:What's the difference between Whrilfloc and Protfloc then?
Basically the same thing by different suppliers. They are refined Irish moss (and other seaweeds) so they are more efficient than standard Irish moss.
rick_huggins wrote: I think I may toss the Irish moss as it takes a good 4 weeks to clear for me
Irish moss (or Whirlfloc) doesn't deal with that sort of haze.

rick_huggins

Re: Irish Moss or else?

Post by rick_huggins » Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:23 pm

Are we talking chill haze then?

I thought Irishmoss et all was to clump the cold break material?

Graham

Re: Irish Moss or else?

Post by Graham » Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:51 pm

rick_huggins wrote:Are we talking chill haze then?
No. I assumed that the "4-weeks to clear" referred to yeast clearing down.
rick_huggins wrote: I thought Irishmoss et all was to clump the cold break material?
That is true.

rick_huggins

Re: Irish Moss or else?

Post by rick_huggins » Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:54 pm

Phew, thanks G

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Re: Irish Moss or else?

Post by Capped » Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:36 am

I used Irish Moss (always rehydrated) since taking up brewing,but recently switched to protafloc having read and heard about it's superiority. To be honest,I cannot say I've seen any difference. At all.

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Re: Irish Moss or else?

Post by Capped » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:04 am

Chris-x1 wrote:
You may want to look at other areas of your brewing process such as water treatment etc. When used correctly the difference can be significant.
I'm always tinkering,even though I'm not sure what I'm doing(!) but whether using I.M or protafloc my ales almost always come out gin clear. Honest! Maybe my postcode has the Holy Grail of water supplies... What I did notice when using protafloc for the first time,is that the hot break seemed much less obvious. Uh uh,I thought,this ain't going to work. But it did.

lukesharpe

Re: Irish Moss or else?

Post by lukesharpe » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:12 am

just changed over to Protafloc and the first beer came out crystal clear. I'll need to do another few brews to make sure that one wasn't a fluke.

rick_huggins

Re: Irish Moss or else?

Post by rick_huggins » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:41 am

Capped wrote: What I did notice when using protafloc for the first time,is that the hot break seemed much less obvious. Uh uh,I thought,this ain't going to work. But it did.
Protofloc should be used 15m or so from the end of the boil before you start chilling; to help clump the cold break proteins; hot break is at the beginning of the boil!

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Re: Irish Moss or else?

Post by Capped » Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:18 am

Chris-x1 wrote: Its what you see when you turn the boiler off and all the little brown/grey clumps start coming together (and eventually settle out).
Yes that's what I meant by 'hot break',(Rick!). When turning the boiler off (15 mins after adding copper finings),I find the clumping much more pronounced with I.M. But like I said,the clarity of the end result turns out the same whatever I use.

rick_huggins

Re: Irish Moss or else?

Post by rick_huggins » Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:35 am

Sorry Capped; I was under the impression ""Hot Break"" was the foam at the beginning of the boil only I stand corrected there bud.

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Re: Irish Moss or else?

Post by Capped » Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:44 am

rick_huggins wrote:Sorry Capped; I was under the impression ""Hot Break"" was the foam at the beginning of the boil only I stand corrected there bud.
No problem my friend!

Mitchamitri

Re: Irish Moss or else?

Post by Mitchamitri » Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:11 pm

One of the advantages in using protafloc tablets is I weigh out my hops into 90 minute and 15 minute and I always know which is the 15 minute cos its got a protafloc tablet on the top of it. I am a bit thick though.

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