Whats the Hop-to-OG balance?
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Whats the Hop-to-OG balance?
Whats the Hop-to-OG balance?
Is there some rule of thumb for a limit of EBU's to hop a low gravity ale?
Is there some rule of thumb for a limit of EBU's to hop a low gravity ale?
Re: Whats the Hop-to-OG balance?
hop bitterness balance guide: grams x aa% = 5 x OG
I dug that out from my notes, not sure where it came from and I assume it's for 23 litres
I dug that out from my notes, not sure where it came from and I assume it's for 23 litres
I brew therefore I ... I .... forget
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Re: Whats the Hop-to-OG balance?
So is that the combined weights of hops and average of their AA%?
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vacant wrote:hop bitterness balance guide: grams x aa% = 5 x OG
I dug that out from my notes, not sure where it came from and I assume it's for 23 litres
I'm not sure where that came from either. If you go to brewing calculators in the guestbook and look at Daab's hop rate calculator
you'll see this;
Stronger, higher gravity beers require a higher level of bitterness to balance out the sweet malt flavours.
When designing a recipe a rule of thumb is that IBUs/OG should equal 1 or less to avoid excessive bitterness.
So a beer with an og of 40 would have a max IBU of 40
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Re: Whats the Hop-to-OG balance?
That'll do... thanks 
I was wondering about trying a low OG beer and didn't want to be over bittering it.

I was wondering about trying a low OG beer and didn't want to be over bittering it.
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Re: Whats the Hop-to-OG balance?
I wonder if that would be OG as 1030 or 1.030 ?


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Re: Whats the Hop-to-OG balance?
yeah, there's a bit of a difference! 
Either way I'm not sure I understand the calculation IBU *divided?* by OG to be 1 or Less (which ever way round I pump the numbers into the calculator it doesn't give a sensible figure).
Or... is that meant to be stated as a Ratio, ignoring the 10, so a 1030 wort should have no more than a 30 EBU bittering being 1:1???
Chris???

Either way I'm not sure I understand the calculation IBU *divided?* by OG to be 1 or Less (which ever way round I pump the numbers into the calculator it doesn't give a sensible figure).
Or... is that meant to be stated as a Ratio, ignoring the 10, so a 1030 wort should have no more than a 30 EBU bittering being 1:1???
Chris???
Re: Whats the Hop-to-OG balance?
It varies from style to style but I find aiming for a IBU around three quarters of the gravity (so 30IBU for a 1.040 beer) seems to give a nice balance in a bitter.
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Re: Whats the Hop-to-OG balance?
OK

So this might work:
Then experiment on EBU from the results of that.
Cheers


So this might work:
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Three Percent
Fermentable Colour lb: oz Grams Ratio
Golden Promise 5 EBC 5 lbs. 15.1 oz 2700 grams 84.4%
Crystal Rye Malt 150 EBC 0 lbs. 10.5 oz 300 grams 9.4%
Wheat Malt 3.5 EBC 0 lbs. 7.0 oz 200 grams 6.3%
Hop Variety Type Alpha Time lb: oz grams Ratio
Target Whole 11.4 % 60 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 10 grams 16.7%
Challenger Whole 7.6 % 15 mins 0 lbs. 0.7 oz 20 grams 33.3%
Target Whole 11.4 % 0 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 10 grams 16.7%
Challenger Whole 7.6 % 0 mins 0 lbs. 0.7 oz 20 grams 33.3%
Final Volume: 23 Litres
Original Gravity: 1.031
Final Gravity: 1.008
Alcohol Content: 3% ABV
Total Liquor: 31.5 Litres
Mash Liquor: 8 Litres
Mash Efficiency: 75 %
Bitterness: 23 EBU
Colour: 19 EBC
Cheers
Re: Whats the Hop-to-OG balance?
Always thought it was 1:1 or less. But when you get into higher abvs you can do what ever you want. 

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Re: Whats the Hop-to-OG balance?

I'd have to say I think I prefer the higher EBU'd beers pretty fresh and young so you get a full-on kick.
Some brewing experiments will have to take place

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Happy days.
I have enough bottles to make a few single hopped pale ales.

I have enough bottles to make a few single hopped pale ales.

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Re: Whats the Hop-to-OG balance?
I have enough bottles (loads with the annoying Plastic labels that don't come off that easy) but a lack of conditioning space.
I'm going to have to 'try' resist the temptation to brew this weekend... Hmm!
I've had a good run lately ha ha
I'm going to have to 'try' resist the temptation to brew this weekend... Hmm!
I've had a good run lately ha ha
