Isinglass Finings

[lyonsy81]

I just got some Brupaks dried isinglass, I mixed 1 spoonfull into 500ml Cold water and used 250ml of this & poured into my beer 21litres which has been racked into secondary for 5 days already just to allow it to settle a bit on its own. Does anyone know how long i should let it sit with the isinglass just being added yesterday? I have the beer sitiing at about 13-14oC, has anoyone had any experience with isinglass?

Thanks

[lyonsy81]

Thanks for all the info you guys were Awesome

[critch]

no need to be sarky...

never used brewpaks finings i suspect its cryofine, if so its 100g into 33 pints of water to make the normal isinglas. youd normally use around 500ml-560ml per 42l....and over fining is worse than not fining at all.... itd be star bright in 24-48 hrs if you got the rates right

[guypettigrew]

Hi lyonsy81

If your beer doesn't settle as fast as you hoped it may be because dried isinglass isn't the easiest thing to get into solution. It can take a lot of work!

My preferred stuff is the Brupaks isinglass paste. There's a thread here explaining how I use it.

Hope this helps.

As an aside, why is overfining worse than not fining at all, Mr Critch?

Guy

[gnutz2]

I've heard that beer doesn't last long once isinglass is added! Is there any truth in this.

And is it any good fining with it prior to bottling?

Cheers.

[guypettigrew]

I've heard that beer doesn't last long once isinglass is added! Is there any truth in this.

And is it any good fining with it prior to bottling?

Cheers.

In my case it doesn't last long once it's in the barrel!

Guy

[critch]

I've heard that beer doesn't last long once isinglass is added! Is there any truth in this.

And is it any good fining with it prior to bottling?

Cheers.

if you dont rack it off the fish guts itll go off within 6-8 weeks

dont use isinglas prior to bottling there no point!

[gnutz2]

I've heard that beer doesn't last long once isinglass is added! Is there any truth in this.

And is it any good fining with it prior to bottling?

Cheers.

if you dont rack it off the fish guts itll go off within 6-8 weeks

dont use isinglas prior to bottling there no point!

Thanks, but why is there no point, I use gelatine then rack off into a sugar solution (batch prime) and then bottle.

Why not do this with isinglas?

Cheers Baz.

[critch]

theres no point cos itll settle out by itself without it and the fining will drag loads of yeast out possibly to the point where itll be harder to carbonate

ive never fined a bottle (apart from protofloc in the copper) in 25 years. i do 1200 bottles a week minimum and our only problem has been the occasional overcarbed bottle due to improper storage(currently being addressed)

in fact id go as far as to say id rather not fine at all as it strips out flavour from the beer, but unfortunately most publicans do not understand beer and wont stand for an extra day or so wait before dispense hence the rise of bright beer and the laughable"fast cask system"

[Shrunken Reaper]

unfortunately most publicans do not understand beer

This is all too true Mr Critch

There ar still a few hanging around, however...

[critch]

if if you know of a definitive list in merseyside id be very interested!

[lyonsy81]

Cheers for the answers boys but the correct answer is 48 hours, take note if you's do decide to use isinglass finings!

[critch]

Cheers for the answers boys but the correct answer is 48 hours, take note if you's do decide to use isinglass finings!

itd be star bright in 24-48 hrs if you got the rates right

as i said.........

[alwilson]

absolutely no expert here, but will share my experience.

I use AllkleerA and Cellarbrite from Murphy's, one is aux finings the other isinglass - ready mixed in solution.

I add them both to the primary FV, (about a day a part) and then cask and/or bottle. I rack off the guts into bottling tanks.

So far (touch wood) no problems with off guts or under carb'd beer in bottles.

I dont think these finings last too long. I think its 6 weeks refrigerated. So I tend to order per brew and not stock pile it.

IIRC, 250ml of each does my 18 gallons just fine (no pun)

[greenxpaddy]

So you can still get a decent secondary fermentation after using isinglass?