using alot of hops??

[alfie09]

hello all. planning on making this thursday/friday 44 litres of hoppy APA hopped every five minutes with 12 grams of each for 90minutes . thing is that is alot of hops and everytime i have used this many i usually end up mega short on volume collected in my fermenters. is it best to set the brew length higher or collect more wort? not sure which way to do it?

hoppy ipa !!!!!
Date:
Gyle Number:
Fermentable Colour lb: oz Grams Ratio
Pale Malt 5 EBC 21 lbs. 6.6 oz 9710 grams 90.1%
Caragold 9 EBC 1 lbs. 2.8 oz 535 grams 5%
Crystal Malt 130 EBC 1 lbs. 2.8 oz 535 grams 5%


Hop Variety Type Alpha Time lb: oz grams Ratio

Columbus (Tomahawk) Whole 16.5 % 90 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 12 grams 5.6%

Chinook Whole 12.5 % 85 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 12 grams 5.6%

Columbus (Tomahawk) Whole 16.5 % 80 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 12 grams 5.6%

Chinook Whole 12.5 % 75 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 12 grams 5.6%

Columbus (Tomahawk) Whole 16.5 % 70 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 12 grams 5.6%

Chinook Whole 12.5 % 65 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 12 grams 5.6%

Columbus (Tomahawk) Whole 16.5 % 60 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 12 grams 5.6%

Chinook Whole 12.5 % 55 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 12 grams 5.6%

Columbus (Tomahawk) Whole 16.5 % 50 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 12 grams 5.6%

Chinook Whole 12.5 % 45 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 12 grams 5.6%

Columbus (Tomahawk) Whole 16.5 % 40 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 12 grams 5.6%

Chinook Whole 12.5 % 35 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 12 grams 5.6%

Columbus (Tomahawk) Whole 16.5 % 30 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 12 grams 5.6%

Chinook Whole 12.5 % 25 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 12 grams 5.6%

Columbus (Tomahawk) Whole 16.5 % 20 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 12 grams 5.6%

Chinook Whole 12.5 % 15 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 12 grams 5.6%

Columbus (Tomahawk) Whole 16.5 % 10 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 12 grams 5.6%

Chinook Whole 12.5 % 5 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 12 grams 5.6%


Final Volume: 44 Litres
Original Gravity: 1.056
Final Gravity: 1.014
Alcohol Content: 5.5% ABV
Total Liquor: 64.8 Litres
Mash Liquor: 27 Litres
Mash Efficiency: 77 %
Bitterness: 85.61226413078 EBU
Colour: 22 EBC

[jat147]

Thats a lot of hops Is your supplier having a sale?

You could try to calculate the losses to expect from all that green, and adjust water accordingly.
If you know the weight of hops a calculator will tell you how much water to expect to lose?

[PureGuiness]

Sounds interesting that one Lee. You'll have to let us know how it goes.

[scuppeteer]

Is your IBU correct?
Just run this thru beer engine and got 122IBU. That'll make your tongue curl!
Really like to know how it turns out.

[staplefordbill]

is it best to set the brew length higher or collect more wort?

Definitely better to set the brew length higher. I had the same problem and collected more wort, but over sparged and got more tannins in the beer.

[boingy]

TBH, there is not really much point drip feeding the hops into the boil like that. You won't get the best out of them and you'll just keep killing the boil every 5 mins.

Put all the bittering ones in at the start and then throw in loads of hops late in the boil for flavour and after flameout for aroma.

As for hop absorption, do you use any brewing software? That would calculate the losses for you and allow you to boost the quantity hitting the boiler.

[jayoun]

TBH, there is not really much point drip feeding the hops into the boil like that. You won't get the best out of them and you'll just keep killing the boil every 5 mins.

Put all the bittering ones in at the start and then throw in loads of hops late in the boil for flavour and after flameout for aroma.
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+1

I would probably do the 90 min boil with additions somewhere around 60, 20, 5, 0 and a dry addition. I love the Columbus/Chinook combo and would not think of adding them pre 20 min (aside from a single bittering or FWH addition).

And yes that is a lot of whole hops, be sure to adjust for a significant volume loss. I once dry hopped with somewhere around 5 oz of whole hops, lost at least 1/2 gallon if I recall.

[Beer O'Clock]

Yeah, gotta agree. Bittering at 90 and then load it up at the end. The stuff in the middle won't add much, if anything (other than bitterness).

[alfie09]

i use beer engine does that actually adjust with how many hops you use??

[PureGuiness]

I'm not so sure. If you can manage it without killing the rolling boil then I say go for it. There are brewers out there who brew award winning beers and use hop schedules like this. It is supposed to give a more complex bitterness and flavour profile. Only one way to find out eh?

[FatGaz]

Just out of curiosity - when you add hops like this, when does the bittering end and when does the aroma begin? Sounds intersting though. Hope you let us know how you get on.

[PureGuiness]

Bitterness can continue all the way to the end of the boil (and then some), although in diminishing amounts. Commercial brewers will get maybe up to 20% of bitterness from the whirlpool.

Aroma is driven off by steam so you really don't lock that in until you reach around 85oC but you will get more flavour than bitterness from the last 10-15 minutes of the boil.

[Horatio]

TBH, there is not really much point drip feeding the hops into the boil like that. You won't get the best out of them and you'll just keep killing the boil every 5 mins.

Put all the bittering ones in at the start and then throw in loads of hops late in the boil for flavour and after flameout for aroma.

+1 (or is it 2? lol)

[alfie09]

dont look like i will be making this after all. just had results back from docs seems like my something is wrong with my gamma gt levels. usually equals liver problems. got to see doctor now. also my blood plasma levels are way off limit. something tells me my liver is a bit knackered. scary really as i dont drink that much. i only drink on friday/saturday. think i will need to lay off making/drinking for a good while if not for good. bad times ahead

[Horatio]

Damn! Wish you well my friend and hope all will be okay.