FG 1.005 - WTF

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JammyBStard

FG 1.005 - WTF

Post by JammyBStard » Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:32 pm

What Has happened here?

My First English IPA in a while has finished at 1.005 (I checked with three Hydrometers)

Primary:
Mashed at 67'c
Fermented 1 week 19'c,
Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 66.59 %
Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 9.51 %
Wheat, Torrified (1.7 SRM) Grain 7.13 %
Barley, Flaked (1.7 SRM) Grain 2.38 %
Black (Patent) Malt (500.0 SRM) Grain 1.90 %
Irish Moss (Boil 1.0 min) Misc

Secondry:
Fermented
1 week 19'C ramped up-to 21'c
Cane (Beet) Sugar (0.0 SRM) Sugar 12.49 %

SafAle US05

SG 1.050
FG 1.005 :shock:

The result seems very good not too dry at all, sweet if anything but generally very good.
But what accounts for the very low fg? I suppose it's got to be somthing to do with the sugar or a wild yeast (it was dry hopped with 25g of cones)
I think the thing that bothers me about it is it's a good beer, but probably not repeatable because of the impossible finishing gravity.

any ideas?

micromaniac

Re: FG 1.005 - WTF

Post by micromaniac » Sat Aug 11, 2012 2:13 pm

ive had 3 brews on the trot go lower than that but that was when i was exprenting with overnight mashing. did you do an extended mash? by the way i was,nt keen on the rusults

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Re: FG 1.005 - WTF

Post by JammyBStard » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:19 pm

Not extended, It had a rest at 50 and then it stuck and I had to dig it out, fix the tun and mess around getting it back up to temp, so it wasn't a standard mash. However it was a split batch with two different yeasts and the other one (no secondry sugar) finished at 1014 so I assume it was post mash!

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Re: FG 1.005 - WTF

Post by darkonnis » Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:59 pm

I quite like US05, it finishes quite well and while that seems a bit low I wouldn't worry. Could try it again? I can't see why it would have gone that low as even a reduced mash temp as a result of digging it out would have give nsimilar results with the other yeast... speaking of which what yeast did you use?

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Re: FG 1.005 - WTF

Post by Rookie » Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:00 pm

My last batch was a pale ale that S-05 took from 1.044 to 1.007.
This quality makes S-05 good for fairly high gravity beers.
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Re: FG 1.005 - WTF

Post by CestrIan » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:22 pm

Could be an infection, lactic or acetic or could be wild yeast, they just don't know when to stop!!
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Re: FG 1.005 - WTF

Post by Brewmeister » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:42 pm

What temp was it when you took your reading? If I was a betting man I would put my money on wild yeast.

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Re: Odp: FG 1.005 - WTF

Post by zgoda » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:00 am

Are you confident with your thermometer and mash tun insulation? I'd suspect the mash temp was too low if there's no signs of wild yeast contamination.

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Post by JammyBStard » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:17 pm

darkonnis wrote:I quite like US05, it finishes quite well and while that seems a bit low I wouldn't worry. Could try it again? I can't see why it would have gone that low as even a reduced mash temp as a result of digging it out would have give nsimilar results with the other yeast... speaking of which what yeast did you use?
The other yeast used was S-04, that finished at 1.014
Brewmeister wrote:What temp was it when you took your reading? If I was a betting man I would put my money on wild yeast.
1.005 was temperature adjusted (calibrated at 20'c)
zgoda wrote:Are you confident with your thermometer and mash tun insulation? I'd suspect the mash temp was too low if there's no signs of wild yeast contamination.
I think even if I'd mashed at 65' i wouldnt expect below 1.008

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Re: Odp: FG 1.005 - WTF

Post by zgoda » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:25 pm

What about 63? I had once such beer, fermented down to 1.006, mashed 50 mins at 63. Faulty thermometer was lying it's 66.

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Re: FG 1.005 - WTF

Post by JammyBStard » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:46 pm

zgoda wrote:What about 63? I had once such beer, fermented down to 1.006, mashed 50 mins at 63. Faulty thermometer was lying it's 66.
I guess I'll check my thermometers but I dont use cheap digital thermos because there always out by a degree or two. I use two or three Youngs glass brewing thermometers and check they give to a degree or so the same reading.

I'm not sure how to do the maths on this but perhaps it has somthing to do with the way I did my secondry.

First I made about 16L of 1052 wert with just the grain. Fermented with US-05 for one week. lets say this could have gone down to 1010.

Then I moved it to secondry ontop of 3L of sugar-wash with a starting gravity of 1064

As the sugar was very fermentable it could have gon down to 1.000 I think. Did I then effectivly waterdown the beer giving the low FG???

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