sanitising all equipment best method.?

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sanitising all equipment best method.?

Post by liddley » Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:28 am

hi all just in the process of setting myself up for brewing my very first all grain brew. just wondered what is best to sanitise all my equipment with. was going to use something like Milton ?
would this be strong enough to kill all unwanted bacteria or is there other cleaning products I can use?
would appreciate any advice.

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Re: sanitising all equipment best method.?

Post by keith1664 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:46 am

The problem with milton and other chlorine based sanitisers is that you have to ensure that it's thoroughly rinsed afterwards or you run the risk of off flavours in your beer. A no rinse sanitiser like Starsan may cost a bit more initially but saves a lot of effort and a bottle will last you ages.
If you do decide to go with chlorine then you might as well just use thin value bleach and to get rid of every trace rinse with a sodium metabisulphite solution.
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Post by Matt12398 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:40 am

+1 to starsan

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Post by Martin G » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:02 am

Yep, also vote for Starsan for day to day use, but it is a good idea to do the critical equipment with another method from time to time. If using chlorine based sanitiser then one method for rinsing it is to boil up a batch of water and rinse everything with it three times. If the water is used whilst still very hot then the heat will also provide some of the sanitising action and help remove the chlorine, some things cannot take heat though and there will be more nasty fumes.

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Re: sanitising all equipment best method.?

Post by Normski » Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:07 pm

Hi liddley
Just a tip. Its only the things that come in contact with the brew after the Boil that realy need to be sanitized.
Everything before the boil just needs to be clean.

I use sodium met to sanitize.
Bleach to clean.
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Post by brodington » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:28 pm

Starsan has changed my life. (got the better)

You need to use so little of it that a bottle is very good value.

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Post by yamr6 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:10 pm

me i just wonders what they did in the old days before all these chemicals
bit of stem mayhaps

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Post by oz11 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:24 pm

Old beer probably tasted rubbish but still safer than the water of the time :)

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Post by Eric » Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:44 pm

yamr6 wrote:me i just wonders what they did in the old days before all these chemicals
bit of stem mayhaps
They made their beer strong enough to resist infection or sold it quickly before it was too rank to sell.
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Post by setmash » Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:39 pm

Im really new to all grain (only done two brews - the chaps on this forum have been amazing with the amount of advice i have been given). For my last brew i used Starsan, it was a 100 pint 3 corny brew and using Starsan made a massive difference.

Starsan is fussy about water. If it doesnt like your water (too hard) it will go cloudy. Best is to buy a big bottle of Tesco Ashbeck mineral water (costs nothing) and mix it with that. Once made up (use a small syringe to put correct dose in your water) starsan lasts ages (you can even re-use it). I have starsan in a hand spray bottle for spraying on the side of my FV etc and i also have some made up for general sanitising - i pour some in to a wallpaper long plastic dish and dunk pipes etc in that. Starsan is no rinse so saves loads of time...I love it

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Post by Jocky » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:19 pm

My tips on this are:

1. Get a trigger bottle and put starsan solution in it. A quick spray from that sanitises most things.

2. While brewing keep a tub of starsan solution around. I use a plastic biscuit tub, but a small fermenting bucket is fine too. This is great for dumping equipment in to keep it santised (thermometer, syphon, bottle caps, teaspoons), and you can reuse the starsan solution in future as long as you're not dumping anything dirty into it (rinse things before dropping them back in).

3. Clean everything when you're done brewing for the day. You don't want to leave anything to dry onto your equipment as it makes it much harder to remove later, and it will harbour nasties. I use Oxi clean (well, it's a tub of Vanish Oxi Action) for this, usually in a bucket, and then rinse it off in the sink before leaving to dry. This way the next time I come to brew a quick squirt of starsan from the spray bottle is all that is needed.
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Post by liddley » Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:04 am

where is best to by starsan ? had a quick look on eBay and seems to be all American sellers.

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jonnyt

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Post by jonnyt » Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:38 am

Oxy also kills 99.9% of all bacteria like bleach.

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Post by Jocky » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:23 am

liddley wrote:where is best to by starsan ? had a quick look on eBay and seems to be all American sellers.
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