First All Grain brew cock up!!!

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First All Grain brew cock up!!!

Post by liddley » Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:39 pm

Attempted my very first all grain brew at the weekend after collecting/making all the equipment needed.
I purchaced a ready measured out kit off the net to make 40 pints of Timothy Taylors landlord special.
All was going well untill I began to draw off some of the liquer from the mash tun and disaster struck!
The copper frame I made for the strainer in the bottom of the mash tun came loose from the tap and the grain blocked up my tap solid DoH!
Not having any experience in all grain brewing I was not sure what to do? I had no option to tip the mash tun up to one side, clean out the tap and re attach the strainer back on. I left the mash tun for another twenty mins or so covered up to try and get the grain to settle. When I returned and tried again it drew off like a treat. first few jugs full were very cloudy but after that nice and clear. So I carried on and sparged and then got the boil on. No hassels after that.
First lesson learned ( make sure everything is fixed and secured before starting).
The end result looked and smelt ok , but just wondered If I wasted my time carring on after the mash tun mishap or will I be able to salvage somthing drinkable from the first brew?
All in all though I think with practice Im going to enjoy the all grain brewing lark !

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Re: First All Grain brew cock up!!!

Post by far9410 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:46 pm

It should be fine mate
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Re: First All Grain brew cock up!!!

Post by wilsoa11111 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:47 pm

ahh it will be fine, might have lost a bit of temp so be a bit more boozy and drier but should still be miles better than most stuff

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Re: First All Grain brew cock up!!!

Post by liddley » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:22 pm

that's great ! wasn't sure if it would ruin it messing the mash stage up, but will be pleased if I can get something drinkable from my first attempt !

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Re: First All Grain brew cock up!!!

Post by Eric » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:53 pm

I'll bet it'll be more than drinkable. Those are the sort of problems you will get and can get around without concern.
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Re: First All Grain brew cock up!!!

Post by scuppeteer » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:53 pm

All fine. Should it happen again a hose pipe up the mash tun outlet usually does the trick with no adverse effect.
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Re: First All Grain brew cock up!!!

Post by setmash » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:05 am

Im sure it will be good. Im a new AGer as well, only done two brews and both were a disaster but the beer turned out to be fantastic !

Good luck for brew 2...its addictive

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Re: First All Grain brew cock up!!!

Post by Dave S » Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:41 am

The fact is, the cock up happened at the end of the mash, so your extract should be OK. Brew on!
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Re: First All Grain brew cock up!!!

Post by orlando » Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:55 am

Agh, cock ups! I used to think it was only me (and I still keep my end up in this department) and then I discovered Jim's and to the eternal credit of all concerned I discovered that not only was it a common occurrence but often a part of every brew day and one many were prepared to share. Made me feel a lot better, even if it didn't prevent my regular contribution. Obviously there is a scale here and there are some, if not most, you can get away with, your example being one of them.

So keep calm and carry on brewing, actually it is all part of the fun. :wink:
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Re: First All Grain brew cock up!!!

Post by neil smith » Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:51 pm

even the big boys have problems, i have just got back from one of the local micros and they had pump problems last brew day so had to rig something up in a hurry so everything took much longer but the brewer said it will all work out well
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Re: First All Grain brew cock up!!!

Post by seymour » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:49 am

Yeah, a prolonged mash isn't a problem at all. Some of us even intentionally mash overnight sometimes. You probably won't even notice a difference.

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Re: First All Grain brew cock up!!!

Post by orlando » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:14 am

seymour wrote:Yeah, a prolonged mash isn't a problem at all. Some of us even intentionally mash overnight sometimes. You probably won't even notice a difference.
Begs the question....! I usually go for 60 minutes these days, particularly when mashing low. I still flirt with 90 for Porters etc as I still want as much conversion of Beta Amylase as possible as I have had a few finish too high (low attenuation).
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Re: First All Grain brew cock up!!!

Post by critch » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:50 am

neil smith wrote:even the big boys have problems
and on a regular basis too :oops: its only a problem if its continual, if you learn by it, its a lesson :wink:

ive just sussed our new fv temp controllers read 2.c too cold,(all of em!) ive been scratching my head wondering why the ferments have been slow with less yeast produced and slightly higher fv's. now i know :roll:

i should have picked up on it weeks ago #-o

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Re: First All Grain brew cock up!!!

Post by orlando » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:38 am

critch wrote:
neil smith wrote:even the big boys have problems
and on a regular basis too :oops: its only a problem if its continual, if you learn by it, its a lesson :wink:

ive just sussed our new fv temp controllers read 2.c too cold,(all of em!) ive been scratching my head wondering why the ferments have been slow with less yeast produced and slightly higher fv's. now i know :roll:

i should have picked up on it weeks ago #-o
Completely different scale but I have only just got round to a calibrated thermometer, on the up side my old one was only .3 out and the calibrated one has a margin of .4, what surprises me is that your temp controllers, in a commercial setting, could be so far out, is it not possible to get them calibration certificated?

I do like the, "it's only a problem if continual, if you learn by it, it's a lesson"
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Re: First All Grain brew cock up!!!

Post by Dave S » Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:31 am

orlando wrote:
critch wrote:
neil smith wrote:even the big boys have problems
and on a regular basis too :oops: its only a problem if its continual, if you learn by it, its a lesson :wink:

ive just sussed our new fv temp controllers read 2.c too cold,(all of em!) ive been scratching my head wondering why the ferments have been slow with less yeast produced and slightly higher fv's. now i know :roll:

i should have picked up on it weeks ago #-o
Completely different scale but I have only just got round to a calibrated thermometer, on the up side my old one was only .3 out and the calibrated one has a margin of .4, what surprises me is that your temp controllers, in a commercial setting, could be so far out, is it not possible to get them calibration certificated?

I do like the, "it's only a problem if continual, if you learn by it, it's a lesson"
Thing is, they might be perfectly well calibrated. Calibrated is not the same as accurate. As long as they have a measured error margin compared to standard used for the calibration. But I agree, 2C does seem a lot for industry standard equipment
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Dave

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