Looking for a good malty pale ale recipe

[wildwinnie]

Hello All,
Hoping that I have got this question in the right category now! I am new to your forum and have been brewing some really tasty hoppy pale ales, but they lack the malty depth that I am looking for - so does anyone have any good recipes for a really good malty pale ale with plenty of hoppy flavours or malty ales that can withstand a good bashing of hops please? I have been using 4kg maris otter 900g wheat and 500g carapils with a whopping mix of around 300g of new world hops 50g of these have been added at start and the majority seeped at 80 degrees
Looking forward to your replies!

[Matt12398]

You could add some Munich for some maltiness but you might still be banging your head against a brick unless you consider your yeast choice and water treatment.

[wildwinnie]

I have had my water analyzed and treat my water according to the type of beer I am brewing and usually use safale 04 yeast but will give munich a try - thanks

[Rick_UK]

You could mash a couple of degrees higher, add plenty of light crystal and yes munich or vienna malt will give more maltyness. I would also recommend using a more estery yeast such as Windsor rather than S04 or Notty/Girvin.

For a really malty ale you need to step into the darker ales - plenty of amber malt in a porter or brown ale gives superb complex roasted malt flavours. You could add some to a pale ale but only a little as it will darken it considerably.

Edit - Belgian aromatic malt also gives a big boost to maltyness but the armomatic notes may not fit with the British style too well.

Rick

[fego]

+1 for Munich and a change of yeast, perhaps cultivate some from a bottled beer similar to the style you are try to reproduce.

Or..... try less hops...

[scuppeteer]

As others have said mash a little higher around 68-69C. Brew a bit stronger as well 5.5-6%. With additions of munich, crystal and cara will improve the malt profile. Try using Nottingham yeast. Do you really want it too malty if you going for a hop bash like that anyway?