Lager!!

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WobblyTone

Lager!!

Post by WobblyTone » Thu May 15, 2014 8:13 am

Having got a few AG brews under my belt now I do like a cold lager when having a barby etc but finding the kits, whilst ok, a bit lacking.

So I could do with a couple of pointers on where to start!

Would leaving the FV on the floor in the shed be cool enough for fermentation?, I guess it`ll be about 10 - 15c this time of year and my fridge is full of beer and I don`t want to loose it by converting it.

Also any good recipes for a good, decent lager along the lines of a German pilsner etc? (Or a recommended recipe book)

Many thanks in advance

Tony

AnthonyUK

Re: Lager!!

Post by AnthonyUK » Thu May 15, 2014 9:01 am

Hi,
Lager requires a period of cold conditioning - the 'lagering' which is to store in German- at as low a temp as you can get.
You also have a non- linear fermentation profile where the temp is raised at the end so the yeast can clean up any unwanted flavours.
10-15°c will be good for fermenting but not for lagering if you want it to be ready this year.

Working with what you have available I would go for a pseudo-lager using Nottingham yeast which works great down to about 14°c and will ferment very clean at this temp.

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Re: Lager!!

Post by mozza » Thu May 15, 2014 11:21 am

Saflager S-23 will ferment well on the warmer side at 15 degrees. If go for a normal lager and then leave it in your garage for as long as possible after the diactyl rest. (Three months minimum really although one month would be ok before bottling)
Cheers and gone,

Mozza

Matt12398

Re: Lager!!

Post by Matt12398 » Thu May 15, 2014 12:45 pm

If you choose a clean fermenting yeast and use noble hops you could create a lageresque beer that would be a good alternative.

Rick_UK

Re: Lager!!

Post by Rick_UK » Thu May 15, 2014 3:06 pm

Hard to do a true lager without a fridge this time of year. However you will still get a lager of sorts without the 10 years of cold storage purists would recommend. I usually lager for 2-3 weeks and have had great results. Another option would be to lager in the bottle - bottle as usual after fermentation is done, prime and leave to carbonate then stick bottles in fridge for a few weeks before you drink them.

I made a lager with Girvin ale yeast fermented at 15'C and while it was a great pint it definitely tasted more ale than lager like. I think lager yeast at the higher end of its range would work better than ale yeast fermented cool in terms of lager flavour - I certainly foind this with S23 .

Rick

WobblyTone

Re: Lager!!

Post by WobblyTone » Thu May 15, 2014 3:46 pm

Cheers for the replies,

I might have to put my thinking cap on, oh and read up a bit to fully understand the process.

In the meantime Summer Lightning it is!!

196osh

Re: Lager!!

Post by 196osh » Sun May 18, 2014 11:43 pm

If you're wanting to make a lager at warmer temps then WLP810 San Francisco Lager is your best bet.

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