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neil smith

No ferment

Post by neil smith » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:16 am

Hi all,

Made a brew yesterday the same as I usually do but could not get any live yeast from my usual micro, so got some from another well known one and pitched it last night at 7.30 at my normal 20c but this morning where normally I have a good ferment going I have nothing at all. Any ideas how to kick start it as its never happened before, should I try and get some dried yeast today or wait till tomorrow and get some more fresh. By the way I did get yeast to about 20c before pitching so as not to shock it.

Regards Neil

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Re: No ferment

Post by lord groan » Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:14 am

I'd leave it, over the years I've had obvious fermentation take anything from a few hours to 3 days to begin

neil smith

Re: No ferment

Post by neil smith » Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:05 pm

Just gone for it and put in 6 x11g packs of wilko dried yeast and an air stone so fingers crossed now.

Regards Neil

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Re: No ferment

Post by Matt12398 » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:29 pm

How many litres are you fermenting to need that much yeast?

neil smith

Re: No ferment

Post by neil smith » Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:04 pm

170 litres ie 4 firkins and a mini pin, just got home from the pub and its just started fermenting so happy bunny now. The live yeast might of been dead lol.

Regards Neil

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Re: No ferment

Post by neil smith » Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:27 pm

Hi all,

Really gutted as about to put 4 firkins of blonde beer down the drain, it took 7 days to go from 1042 og to 1012 fg but normally only takes 2or 3 days with fresh live yeast.
The problem is it wont drop clear even though I used koppa kleer in the boil, aux finings when cooled to 6c and isinglass in casks, it also tastes funny cant describe but I don't like it, one of my local micros said he had trouble and put it down to hot and stormy weather. But I had a problem when hot last year and thought it was wild air bourn yeast getting in, has any of you had similar problems this weather. Will try another brew on Monday with fresh yeast and keep fingers crossed.

Regards Neil

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Re: No ferment

Post by fego » Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:57 pm

Shame that.

I split a brew across 3 FV's recently. Two had temp control and turned out lovely. The other one left in the garage went down the drain. It smelled and tasted funny and was very cloudy. Had an odd perfume smell, wasn't sour at all but sort of banana mixed with boiled sweets. I think the temperature had an impact but I'm also pretty sure the yeast (which was unique to that FV) was the main culprit. It was quite old the yeast so inevitably was under-pitched.

Perhaps your yeast issue was the real problem too and not just the weather?
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Re: No ferment

Post by Cazamodo » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:19 am

I brewed a large batch for a wedding this month, two kegs in a chest freezer with temp control, and one 20l fermenter left out as had no-where to fit it. My idea being I'll split it between the two to hude any off flavours...

Well the 20L with no temp control was absolutely foul. Sour, bitter, and went straight down the drain. The temp controlled ones are great.

Was same brew with the same yeast too.

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Re: No ferment

Post by stuartmclu » Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:26 pm

The live yeast might have been contaminated or too old. I'm always nervous if there is not a good krausen the next day.

neil smith

Re: No ferment

Post by neil smith » Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:21 am

I use temp control at 20c in fv so fine there so could be yeast was off, But on a brighter note I brewed on Monday with og of 1042 and by teus it was 1028 and wed lunchtime it was my expected fg of 1012 ie 4%. its a blonde beer with 25kg pale malt and 5kg lager malt, barrelled last night 4 firkins and a polly pin this morning crystal clear and lovely, yeast was fron my normal source so back on track now.
Regards Neil

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