No carbonation, why?
No carbonation, why?
2 Sundays ago I bottled 2 batches 1 stout and one a single hop pale ale. I tried both last weekend and yesterday and the stout is fine but the pale ale has no carbonation at all. There is a small pst when you open it but its nearly totally flat. It was bottled the same way at the same time as the stout with slightly more sugar. The only cause I can think is there could have been a tiny amount of steriliser unrinsed from the bottling bucket but I think thats seriously unlikely as I did it the same was I have for 11 previous brews and sterlised all the fermenters the same way. Also would a tiny amount of VWP (diluted to 1tsp a gallon then emptied and rinsed) kill all the yeast anyway? Is there something else I could have missed?
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Re: No carbonation, why?
Patience 
Carbonation can take a little time, especially at this time of the year - so bring them into somewhere warm for at least another week before you worry too much about it. Temperature, priming and yeast left in suspension all play a part in how quick it works.
Carbonation can take a little time, especially at this time of the year - so bring them into somewhere warm for at least another week before you worry too much about it. Temperature, priming and yeast left in suspension all play a part in how quick it works.
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Its been in the airing cupboard with the stout thats carbonated fine along with everything else I have ever brewed. I will give it longer as I have no other option but there must be a reason this is the only one to not carbonate within days. Thanks anyway though if you think time will carbonate it but why?
Re: No carbonation, why?
Taste it and you will know if VWP is to blame. If it tastes like TCP/antiseptic solution it is to blame.simon12 wrote:. The only cause I can think is there could have been a tiny amount of steriliser unrinsed from the bottling bucket but I think thats seriously unlikely as I did it the same was I have for 11 previous brews and sterlised all the fermenters the same way. Also would a tiny amount of VWP (diluted to 1tsp a gallon then emptied and rinsed) kill all the yeast anyway? Is there something else I could have missed?
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Re: No carbonation, why?
Even if you did leave a little vwp in there a healthy yeast will eventually overcome it - but itll retard carbonation accordingly. Either way youll just have to be wait it out
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It will not stop carbonation but it will taste like TCPPinto wrote:Even if you did leave a little vwp in there a healthy yeast will eventually overcome it - but itll retard carbonation accordingly. Either way youll just have to be wait it out
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Re: No carbonation, why?
Most likely explanation is the pale ale yeast was more flocculant and there was less left in suspension - especially if you fined it or crash cooled.
It could be the bottle you tried didn't seal properly - I've had the odd flat bottle where this has happened.
Rick
It could be the bottle you tried didn't seal properly - I've had the odd flat bottle where this has happened.
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Re: No carbonation, why?
There is no taste of TCP or anything nasty and it used the same yeast as the stout and all previous brews which were all well carbonated it under a week the stout had an extra 2 weeks for the yeast to drop out as well. As for the bottle not being sealed correctly I have tried 2 bottles and 3 are in plastic bottles and you can feel they are not as hard as they should be. If there is no change before Christmas is it worth pouring back in to a fermenter and adding more yeast and sugar or is blending it into another batch a good idea or waiting even longer?
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Re: No carbonation, why?
I'd wait, but if it's a strong IPA, then you might need to add some fresh yeast.
Re: No carbonation, why?
Update, just squeezed a plastic bottle and it feels as hard as it should so have put 1 in the fridge to test. Its not an IPA just a 4% pale ale, well 4% was target but I don't seem to have recorded and hydrometer readings.
Re: No carbonation, why?
OK its around 60% carbonated now which to me seems even stranger any explanations anyone?