What about this for an idea - Hop removal

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andyisavinit

What about this for an idea - Hop removal

Post by andyisavinit » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:52 pm

I've read all about different hop removing/filtering methods from the wort, but what about this for an idea.

A stainless steel cylindrical wire mesh open at the top that is approx 15mm narrower in diameter to the brew kettle and just as tall. Simply slip it in before boiling hops, then when finished with boil pull it out collecting all hop and some break material. Easy!

The hops would still be free to roll around, but would the mesh basket prevent proper boil? Can't see why it should, as long as the mesh holes aren't too fine.

Ready now to be told it has been done or won't work [-X
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Re: What about this for an idea

Post by andyisavinit » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:56 pm

Maybe should have googled before posting - as just found this

http://arborfab.com/store/biab/brew-in- ... tle-combo/

Still worth discussing - Anyone tried this? Any good?

Leebo87

Re: What about this for an idea

Post by Leebo87 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:02 pm

Sounds like a great idea if it benefits the wort at all. I doubt it would save a huge amount of time cleaning wise... I expect the mesh filter will take as much time to clean as the brew kettle.

andyisavinit

Re: What about this for an idea

Post by andyisavinit » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:17 pm

I currently just sieve my hops out. I don't want to go down the route of tap and screen in the kettle as I reckon they'll just clog and they need cleaning too. I siphon to fv with a fat tube so thats quick.

I don't like the time and faff involved with chasing hops around the kettle. I just want to be able to lift them all out in one easy move. I think that cleaning the mesh cylinder would be quick as i could just hose it down.

I can't find anyone in the uk who sells them (though not looked that hard) - might have to make one.

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Re: What about this for an idea - Hop removal

Post by aamcle » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:29 pm

I just use an old BIAB bag with a spoon at the bottom to weight it down. If you don't have a bag then a decent size square of voil will do.

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Re: What about this for an idea - Hop removal

Post by Rick_UK » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:13 am

I made a hop spider with mesh and voile and it works well for when I am making a hoppy ale with several additions.

Good old fashioned hop bags are by far the best option for minimising mess and cleaning up and I use these mostly. You can tie the used hop bag to the boiler tap for the run off to filter any trub.

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Re: What about this for an idea - Hop removal

Post by simpleton » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:38 am

Whats wrong with a normal copper pipe filter in the kettle? Simple, cheap and easy to clean.

Having the hops in the kettle filters a lot of the crap at the end. I suppose if you aren't using a tap it might be worth removing them, but otherwise not sure why you would bother.

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Re: What about this for an idea - Hop removal

Post by Capped » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:58 pm

Nah y'all doing it wrong! A trick I learned from 'trucker' a few years back and still using, is to shove some of that shiny, coarse, stainless steel pan-scourer stuff in the boiler tap. Wort is clear within half a litre of running off and it stops everything without impeding the flow of wort. Brilliant! The simplest ideas are often the best....

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Re: What about this for an idea - Hop removal

Post by daf » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:11 pm

simpleton wrote:Whats wrong with a normal copper pipe filter in the kettle? Simple, cheap and easy to clean.

Having the hops in the kettle filters a lot of the crap at the end. I suppose if you aren't using a tap it might be worth removing them, but otherwise not sure why you would bother.
Agreed - my pot from MAlt Miller has a hop filter in it, works every time, whether I used hop leaf or pellet. Clear wort.

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Re: What about this for an idea - Hop removal

Post by banjokat » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:44 pm

Yep, agree with Simpleton and Capped. Maybe some of you are over thinking this.

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Re: What about this for an idea - Hop removal

Post by Leebo87 » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:24 pm

Yep, gotta say my hop bazooka works a treat. Hasn't got clogged up at all, clear wort and easy to unscrew and clean. Just read an article on port66 as well where he brewed the same beer and split it... One with as little trub as possible in FV and one where he wasn't bothered about filtering it out. In a nutshell the 'trub' beercame out on top...

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Re: What about this for an idea - Hop removal

Post by Rick_UK » Sat Feb 21, 2015 4:52 pm

Capped wrote:Nah y'all doing it wrong! A trick I learned from 'trucker' a few years back and still using, is to shove some of that shiny, coarse, stainless steel pan-scourer stuff in the boiler tap. Wort is clear within half a litre of running off and it stops everything without impeding the flow of wort. Brilliant! The simplest ideas are often the best....
I like the sound of this. How do you keep it in place without it coming away from the outlet?

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Re: What about this for an idea - Hop removal

Post by BenB » Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:20 pm

+1 for the bazooka. Cleans in seconds and yet to have any blockages.

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Re: What about this for an idea - Hop removal

Post by Capped » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:01 am

Rick_UK wrote:
Capped wrote:Nah y'all doing it wrong! A trick I learned from 'trucker' a few years back and still using, is to shove some of that shiny, coarse, stainless steel pan-scourer stuff in the boiler tap. Wort is clear within half a litre of running off and it stops everything without impeding the flow of wort. Brilliant! The simplest ideas are often the best....
I like the sound of this. How do you keep it in place without it coming away from the outlet?
Just scrunch it up and work it into the tap - about half of it in and half out. I've never had one come away in the boil after 30 or so brews. When done just pull it out and rinse off the hop debris, leave to dry and it's ready for next time. I'm still using the same one! It's fitted to the inside of the tap, just to clear up any confusion.

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