Good morning.
I am planning on brewing an Orval style beer loosely following the recipe here
http://www.milkthefunk.com/wiki/Orval
All looks straightforward, I’m not trying to replicate the beer per se, just brew something using similar methods. I would like to age it in bottles. My only issue is that I’m wary of the high carbonation of the beer and having it in bottles for a long period of time. I’ve seen references to 5 volumes of co2 which is very high obviously and would be a shame to loose a load of beer to bottle bombs.
I have a good selection of bottles but can anybody recommend a good level of carbonation that a typical bottle can withstand? Or is there a supply somewhere of bottles that can withstand higher carbonation? Champagne bottles would be my last resort but not ideal.
Any advice much appreciated
Bottling high carbonation Belgian beers
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Re: Bottling high carbonation Belgian beers
You could source some Belgian bottles from a craft beer bar or off licence or Belgian themed pub (Belgo/lowlander).
In my experience Orval bottles themselves are very good but you are unlikely to have a lot of them about.
Belgian stubby bottles are very good, and easy to come by. But best if all would be the Trappist style bottles (westmalle/rochfort) etc
In my experience Orval bottles themselves are very good but you are unlikely to have a lot of them about.
Belgian stubby bottles are very good, and easy to come by. But best if all would be the Trappist style bottles (westmalle/rochfort) etc
Re: Bottling high carbonation Belgian beers
Don’t assume that typical British/US bottles are able to withstand high carbonation levels required, if you weight the different bottles you may be quite shocked at the difference between them.
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Re: Bottling high carbonation Belgian beers
You want to find heavy weight bottles. Generally these are the Belgian or German ones that are designed to be reused many times.
For 330ml bottles the 'steinie' bottles that Duvel comes in are good, as are the small 'Vichy' bottles that you get Rochefort/La Trappe/Karmeliet in.
For 500ml you want to use the returnable bottles from breweries like Ayinger, Aventinus, Scheneider Weisse.
The best bottles of all are Orval. They're so strong I'm pretty certain that they could contain a small nuclear explosion. I have a small stock of them for such duties.
For 330ml bottles the 'steinie' bottles that Duvel comes in are good, as are the small 'Vichy' bottles that you get Rochefort/La Trappe/Karmeliet in.
For 500ml you want to use the returnable bottles from breweries like Ayinger, Aventinus, Scheneider Weisse.
The best bottles of all are Orval. They're so strong I'm pretty certain that they could contain a small nuclear explosion. I have a small stock of them for such duties.
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Re: Bottling high carbonation Belgian beers
Duvel carb to 4.3 volumes of CO2 (force-carb to 2.25vol, then bottle-condition) which should be strong enough for most purposes. This is a nice article all about Duvel : https://www.belgiansmaak.com/the-duvels ... -moortgat/Jocky wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:48 pmYou want to find heavy weight bottles. Generally these are the Belgian or German ones that are designed to be reused many times.
For 330ml bottles the 'steinie' bottles that Duvel comes in are good, as are the small 'Vichy' bottles that you get Rochefort/La Trappe/Karmeliet in.
For 500ml you want to use the returnable bottles from breweries like Ayinger, Aventinus, Scheneider Weisse.
The best bottles of all are Orval. They're so strong I'm pretty certain that they could contain a small nuclear explosion. I have a small stock of them for such duties.