Reiterated Mash - Kveik Voss Barley Wine

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Reiterated Mash - Kveik Voss Barley Wine

Post by floydmeddler » Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:50 am

Trying out a reiterated mash has been on the cards for some time now. Today is the day! :-)

Using my home build all in one system: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=80104&hilit=single

Here is the recipe. Went in with 30L strike water. Halved the grains. Mashing each at 64c for an hr.
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Currently doing first mash. Really loose mash so hopefully that'll help with efficiency.

Anyone else tried this? If so, what was your overall efficiency?

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Post by f00b4r » Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:15 pm

I will have to check but I think my efficiency was within normal range. It probably also depends on hitting your mash pH. Did you just split three grains 50/50 or did you do a base malt mash and one with the specialty grains in?

So how did it go for you today?

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Re: Reiterated Mash - Kveik Voss Barley Wine

Post by floydmeddler » Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:51 pm

f00b4r wrote:
Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:15 pm
I will have to check but I think my efficiency was within normal range. It probably also depends on hitting your mash pH. Did you just split three grains 50/50 or did you do a base malt mash and one with the specialty grains in?

So how did it go for you today?
I did 50/50. Ended up with 70% efficiency. Not too far off my usual so happy with that. Ended up deciding to ferment it in the corny so boiled down to 19L. Should come in at around 12%. Drinkable too within around 4 weeks according to others who've done barley wine using Kveik. We shall see!

I'm defs a fan of reiterated mashing. Why didn't I do it sooner!!

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Post by f00b4r » Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:06 pm

Sounds good on the efficiency.
It can be a long brew day though from memory.
You will have to let us know how the barley wine turns out.

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Re: Reiterated Mash - Kveik Voss Barley Wine

Post by floydmeddler » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:32 pm

30 hrs after pitching, this beer is sitting at 1.040 ish. Dropped 50 points in that time. Fermenting at 27c. Blow off has been minimal. Kveik is a real best of a yeast!

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Re: Reiterated Mash - Kveik Voss Barley Wine

Post by MashBag » Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:34 am

Kveik yeast - for me - seems a bit dull tasting.
I was trying it for its higher temps capability.
'real beast' yeh, it will knock done the SG real quick (cos of the temp).

Do you think it will be done in a 7 days ?

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Post by PeeBee » Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:27 am

MashBag wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:34 am
Kveik yeast - for me - seems a bit dull tasting. ...
You're holding back a bit there?

What we need is a real expert on Norwegian "Kveik" ... like McMullen! But 'tis a pity he won't visit this forum anymore. As one of his apprentices I'll do my best to stand in for him:


"Kveik"? !*$%!&* $%&@:?$, #%$!@, ... £^@?£&g Norwegians.


Gosh, I don't 'arf miss him being around.
Cask-conditioned style ale out of a keg/Cornie (the "treatise"): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwzEv5 ... rDKRMjcO1g
Water report demystified (the "Defuddler"; removes the nonsense!): https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

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Re: Reiterated Mash - Kveik Voss Barley Wine

Post by Eric » Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:43 pm

PeeBee wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:27 am

Gosh, I don't 'arf miss him being around.

Me too. He's active on HBT where he has quite a following.
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Re: Reiterated Mash - Kveik Voss Barley Wine

Post by floydmeddler » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:51 pm

MashBag wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:34 am
Kveik yeast - for me - seems a bit dull tasting.
I was trying it for its higher temps capability.
'real beast' yeh, it will knock done the SG real quick (cos of the temp).

Do you think it will be done in a 7 days ?
6 days in and she's sitting @ 1017. Poured a glass and it's tasty mighty fine already. This weather we're having has probably helped things along somewhat. Thinking it'll drop a few more points again as there's still light activity. Will leave now for a few weeks.

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Re: Reiterated Mash - Kveik Voss Barley Wine

Post by floydmeddler » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:51 pm

PeeBee wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:27 am
MashBag wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:34 am
Kveik yeast - for me - seems a bit dull tasting. ...
You're holding back a bit there?

What we need is a real expert on Norwegian "Kveik" ... like McMullen! But 'tis a pity he won't visit this forum anymore. As one of his apprentices I'll do my best to stand in for him:


"Kveik"? !*$%!&* $%&@:?$, #%$!@, ... £^@?£&g Norwegians.


Gosh, I don't 'arf miss him being around.
He already gave me his low down on Kveik a few months back. :D

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=83037&hilit=kveik#p854968

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Re: Reiterated Mash - Kveik Voss Barley Wine

Post by WalesAles » Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:35 am

PeeBee wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:27 am

Gosh, I don't 'arf miss him being around.
Bring back `Ditch` as well! :D

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Post by Eric » Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:37 am

WalesAles wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:35 am
PeeBee wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:27 am

Gosh, I don't 'arf miss him being around.
Bring back `Ditch` as well! :D

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Re: Reiterated Mash - Kveik Voss Barley Wine

Post by PeeBee » Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:00 am

floydmeddler wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:51 pm
He already gave me his low down on Kveik a few months back. :D

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=83037&hilit=kveik#p854968
I remember that thread! "McMullan" (sorry, spelt the name incorrectly earlier) was in informative mode, not "bite yer ead orf" mode ... which he might have saved for me, and a certain Norwegian Homebrew store proprietor? A rare showing by "Killer" too, someone else very informative who I had a knack of winding up (perhaps the phrase "pot calling the kettle black" could be applied to me?).

But I can tell by this thread you weren't taking any notice!

Here is another nudge. This brewing example hasn't been casked/kegged yet because of other commitments so it's still sitting pretty in the fermenter (which is cooled hence the very active temperature fluctuations in this hot weather). But it's an "ordinary" British-style dried yeast (S-33) with half-decent flavour characteristics, and at ordinary fermentation temperatures:
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Obviously, I will not be suckered into this senseless "kveik" craze ... and neither should you!

The experiences with "Reiterated Mashes" might come in useful though.
Cask-conditioned style ale out of a keg/Cornie (the "treatise"): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwzEv5 ... rDKRMjcO1g
Water report demystified (the "Defuddler"; removes the nonsense!): https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

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Re: Reiterated Mash - Kveik Voss Barley Wine

Post by MashBag » Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:13 am

What does this example show you?

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Re: Reiterated Mash - Kveik Voss Barley Wine

Post by PeeBee » Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:21 am

MashBag wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:13 am
What does this example show you?
1.049 beer wort at 18°C starts fermenting in six hours (S-33 yeast), allowed to free-rise to only 21°C and finishes in 36 hours. It's a similar rate of fermentation (perhaps just a handful of hours slower) to that described above using kveik (although it was in a higher gravity wort going from 1.090 - ish? - to 1.040).
Cask-conditioned style ale out of a keg/Cornie (the "treatise"): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwzEv5 ... rDKRMjcO1g
Water report demystified (the "Defuddler"; removes the nonsense!): https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

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