What was the differing strengths of draught? I have his European book and the latest one (the one that was just tarted up from the previous edition). I think I need another stout/porter on the go.IPA wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:48 amGraham formulated three recipes for Guinness. Foreign Export and two different strength draughts.Top Cat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:50 pmCoincidence this, I’ve just brewed the Graham Wheeler’s recipe for Guinness.
I’ve brewed it about 6 times now, a very nice drink, but I have been reducing the roasted barley to make it less pronounced and a little smoother (to my taste!).
I think I’ve overdone it, by reducing it by 20%, I’ve lost all the taste! It’s more like a mild than a dry stout.
I’ve still got a cornie keg full and I do have a hop container I could drop in.
Any ideas guys?
As for your loss of taste is that not what Guinness themselves did over the course of years ?
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I only remember bottled Guinness until the nitro version of draught Guinness arrived at the time the breweries were moving from proper beer to keg.
In Guy's recent posting, it lists Guinness, I think at 4.5% ABV, bottle conditioned. That would be bottled locally from large wooden casks brewed at one of Guinness's three breweries of the time. It was said Guinness moved to draught because their beer was being diluted with local stout during the bottling process.
In Guy's recent posting, it lists Guinness, I think at 4.5% ABV, bottle conditioned. That would be bottled locally from large wooden casks brewed at one of Guinness's three breweries of the time. It was said Guinness moved to draught because their beer was being diluted with local stout during the bottling process.
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Here are a couple of Graham's Guinness recipes. All 25 litre brewlength.
BYOBRA 3rd edition 2009
GUINNESS EXTRA STOUT
Pale malt 3410 gr
Flaked barley 975 gr
Roasted barley 485 gr
Target hops 38 gr
ABV 3.8%
EBU 45
EBC 203
BCEBAH
GUINNESS EXPORT STOUT
Pale malt 3900 gr
Flaked barley 1050 gr
Roasted barley 500 gr
Target hops 30gr
Goldings 45 gr
ABV 4.6%
EBU 45
EBC 200
BYOBRA 1998
GUINNESS EXTRA STOUT
Mild ale malt 3300 gr
Flaked barley 980 gr
Roast barley 500gr
Target hops 36 gr
Challenger hops 23 gr
ABV 4.0%
EBU 45
EBC 200
BCEBAH
GUINNESS FOREIGN EXTRA STOUT
Pale malt 6200 gr
Flaked barley 1700 gr
Roast barley 500 gr
Target hops 45 gr
Golding hops 65 gr
ABV 7.2%
EBU 65
EBC 200
BREW YOUR REAL ALE AT HOME 1993
Pale malt 3900 gr
Roast barley 490 gr
Flaked barley 490 gr
Challenger hops 37 gr
Target hops 25 gr
ABV 4.0%
EBU 45
EBC not given
BYOBRA 3rd edition 2009
GUINNESS EXTRA STOUT
Pale malt 3410 gr
Flaked barley 975 gr
Roasted barley 485 gr
Target hops 38 gr
ABV 3.8%
EBU 45
EBC 203
BCEBAH
GUINNESS EXPORT STOUT
Pale malt 3900 gr
Flaked barley 1050 gr
Roasted barley 500 gr
Target hops 30gr
Goldings 45 gr
ABV 4.6%
EBU 45
EBC 200
BYOBRA 1998
GUINNESS EXTRA STOUT
Mild ale malt 3300 gr
Flaked barley 980 gr
Roast barley 500gr
Target hops 36 gr
Challenger hops 23 gr
ABV 4.0%
EBU 45
EBC 200
BCEBAH
GUINNESS FOREIGN EXTRA STOUT
Pale malt 6200 gr
Flaked barley 1700 gr
Roast barley 500 gr
Target hops 45 gr
Golding hops 65 gr
ABV 7.2%
EBU 65
EBC 200
BREW YOUR REAL ALE AT HOME 1993
Pale malt 3900 gr
Roast barley 490 gr
Flaked barley 490 gr
Challenger hops 37 gr
Target hops 25 gr
ABV 4.0%
EBU 45
EBC not given
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Useful post Ian.IPA wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:55 pmHere are a couple of Graham's Guinness recipes. All 25 litre brewlength.
BYOBRA 3rd edition 2009
GUINNESS EXTRA STOUT
Pale malt 3410 gr
Flaked barley 975 gr
Roasted barley 485 gr
Target hops 38 gr
ABV 3.8%
EBU 45
EBC 203
BCEBAH
GUINNESS EXPORT STOUT
Pale malt 3900 gr
Flaked barley 1050 gr
Roasted barley 500 gr
Target hops 30gr
Goldings 45 gr
ABV 4.6%
EBU 45
EBC 200
BYOBRA 1998
GUINNESS EXTRA STOUT
Mild ale malt 3300 gr
Flaked barley 980 gr
Roast barley 500gr
Target hops 36 gr
Challenger hops 23 gr
ABV 4.0%
EBU 45
EBC 200
BCEBAH
GUINNESS FOREIGN EXTRA STOUT
Pale malt 6200 gr
Flaked barley 1700 gr
Roast barley 500 gr
Target hops 45 gr
Golding hops 65 gr
ABV 7.2%
EBU 65
EBC 200
BREW YOUR REAL ALE AT HOME 1993
Pale malt 3900 gr
Roast barley 490 gr
Flaked barley 490 gr
Challenger hops 37 gr
Target hops 25 gr
ABV 4.0%
EBU 45
EBC not given
The first recipe is what I normally go on, although it has a relatively low ABV (fermentation always stops at 1016) it’s still very tasty.
The brew in question I dropped the roasted barley to 400g. To be fair having got used to the less intense roast barley effect, it’s going down a treat.
I have the Dave Line version from BBLTYB. A book that was my bible when I was brewing in the early 80’s. Now I’ve got a few more recipes to try, I think I’ll go a little stronger next time.
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