Palmers Yeast

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Halycon
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Palmers Yeast

Post by Halycon » Sun Nov 17, 2024 2:26 am

Think this might go down a rabbit hole but such is the knowledge of the forum it would be silly not to ask!
Palmers of Bridport,they have their own yeast but if you wanted to brew a boys bitter what would you use?
If using dry then maybe a co pitch of Windsor and maybe ESB or even BRY97 to attenuate it more, my recipe in brew father reckons that I would achieve 1008FG by doing this ,the degree of bitterness is quite pronounced I understand so maybe this might be too low
On liquid maybe Thames Valley or a generic English Ale,being in NZ its sometimes hard to get the liquids though
The recipe is from the real ale almanac so any advice always appreciated.
Cheers everyone, happy brewing

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Re: Palmers Yeast

Post by nallum » Sun Nov 17, 2024 10:08 am

Use whichever English yeast strain you can get hold of. It's not going to break the recipe, you'll still get a nice bitter, if all other factors align nicely enough. Dry yeast can be a bit 1-dimensional, if you ask me, and the extended 'lag phase' provides time for partial infections to creep in and interfere with balance of the final product. Far from my favourite yeast, but Lallemand Verdant IPA is something I suspect you could get down there. Repitched fresh, it does a fine job, ime. You could even make a starter with some of the yeast from one pack and get several brews out of it.

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Re: Palmers Yeast

Post by clarets7 » Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:56 pm

Definitely going down a rabbit hole...

Unlike nallum I think you do need to find a suitable yeast, and it may be best to go back to the old favourites rather than the newer yeasts which seem to be more aimed at the hoppy beers. I'm drinking a beer brewed with Lallemand London at the moment, but I don't think they do that anymore :(
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Re: Palmers Yeast

Post by nallum » Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:14 pm

nallum wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2024 10:08 am
Far from my favourite yeast, but Lallemand Verdant IPA is something I suspect you could get down there. Repitched fresh, it does a fine job, ime.
Tickled, it's a fine English yeast. I've fermented a Bitter with this yeast, repitched fresh then subsequently served from a cask through a beer engine. My best advice if using a dry yeast is make a starter or repitch fresh after harvesting from the first fermentation.

'London' I thought wasn't suited to home brew, in terms of the effort required to get the beer bright. I had to use isinglass eventually and, although the beer wasn't bad, it's not a yeast strain I'm going to be using again, as long as I have a choice.

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Re: Palmers Yeast

Post by clarets7 » Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:32 pm

Well, to be fair, it had a long time to drop bright as I had forgotten all about the bottles! Brewed in January. Where are you based nallum?
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Re: Palmers Yeast

Post by nallum » Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:47 pm

clarets7 wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:32 pm
Where are you based nallum?
In my brewery listening to Iron Maiden mainly. Now winter's coming.

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Re: Palmers Yeast

Post by Halycon » Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:31 am

Hi guys
Stocked up on some London yeast before it was discontinued so I have some on hand but to my surprise I've managed to get a Burton liquid to work in a 2 ltr starter of 2022 vintage so think I will try that and see how we go, its going well at the moment and smells healthy enough, nothing ventured nothing gained!

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