Worthington White Shield...
Worthington White Shield...
So after a long break I'm back into my second brew in two weeks.
This time I had everything ready for a fast start Saturday morning. Water treated and preheated Friday night. Grain weighed and crushed.
Saturday morning mashed in, went to put the top wire mesh in place to discover I hadn't put the wire mesh on the perforated disc at the bottom of the malt pipe. Noooooo! So a hurried drain, empty and remash in occurred.
Following this I then had a largely uneventful relaxing brew day. The final gravity was surprisingly way too low 1040 instead of 1050, why? Ahh the white sugar. I'm too used to not adding any. So back to the kitchen to boil a little water and sugar in a pan. Now the OG rises to 1053. That will do nicely.
The smell of this brew is lovely, if it turns out half as good as it smells it will be a cracker.
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This time I had everything ready for a fast start Saturday morning. Water treated and preheated Friday night. Grain weighed and crushed.
Saturday morning mashed in, went to put the top wire mesh in place to discover I hadn't put the wire mesh on the perforated disc at the bottom of the malt pipe. Noooooo! So a hurried drain, empty and remash in occurred.
Following this I then had a largely uneventful relaxing brew day. The final gravity was surprisingly way too low 1040 instead of 1050, why? Ahh the white sugar. I'm too used to not adding any. So back to the kitchen to boil a little water and sugar in a pan. Now the OG rises to 1053. That will do nicely.
The smell of this brew is lovely, if it turns out half as good as it smells it will be a cracker.
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Re: Worthington White Shield...
I left the perforated plate and the wire mesh out twice now....
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I left them out once. Will never make that mistake again. I did however manage to recover the grain and start again.richard080561 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:26 pmI left the perforated plate and the wire mesh out twice now....
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Re: Worthington White Shield...
HI. Any chance you could post the recipe please?
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I've done this once before, no plate or mesh. I really need to get a checklist for this! I hope to never repeat thisIPA wrote:I left them out once. Will never make that mistake again. I did however manage to recover the grain and start again.richard080561 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:26 pmI left the perforated plate and the wire mesh out twice now....
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I'm not sure I can, copyright would prevent this going out on the www. It was from GWs 3rd edition. That said, I know Worcesterhopshop sell all grain kits based on his recipes.Lanky94 wrote:HI. Any chance you could post the recipe please?
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When I was a moderator in another forum I contacted Graham to see if he had any objection to his recipes being published on the forum. Providing it was not for gain or fame he had no objection. If the Worcesterhopshop are selling the recipes as kits I would say that is gain. Just a same he is no longer around to challenge them.Brewedout wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:31 pmI'm not sure I can, copyright would prevent this going out on the www. It was from GWs 3rd edition. That said, I know Worcesterhopshop sell all grain kits based on his recipes.Lanky94 wrote:HI. Any chance you could post the recipe please?
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Thanks for the clarification Dennis. I'll raise a glass to Graham's generosity . For clarification Worcesterhopshop did this in the past, it has been a while since I used them. This may be no longer.Dennis King wrote:When I was a moderator in another forum I contacted Graham to see if he had any objection to his recipes being published on the forum. Providing it was not for gain or fame he had no objection. If the Worcesterhopshop are selling the recipes as kits I would say that is gain. Just a same he is no longer around to challenge them.Brewedout wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:31 pmI'm not sure I can, copyright would prevent this going out on the www. It was from GWs 3rd edition. That said, I know Worcesterhopshop sell all grain kits based on his recipes.Lanky94 wrote:HI. Any chance you could post the recipe please?
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In which case Lanky94 I will put the recipe used up in a mo... once I get to the book.
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25l Worthington White Shield Graham Wheeler 3rd Edition.
Pale malt 4350g
White sugar 520g
Crystal malt 365g
Start of boil
30g challenger 7.6%
21g northdown 8.3%
Last 10 mins of boil
17g notthdown 8.3%
Irish moss 3g
Total liquor 35.4 litres
Mash liquor 11.7
Mash @66C for 90 minutes
Boil 90 minutes
OG 1050
FG 1008
Alcohol 5.6%
Bitterness 40 EBU
Colour 21 EBC
Yeast of your choice
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Pale malt 4350g
White sugar 520g
Crystal malt 365g
Start of boil
30g challenger 7.6%
21g northdown 8.3%
Last 10 mins of boil
17g notthdown 8.3%
Irish moss 3g
Total liquor 35.4 litres
Mash liquor 11.7
Mash @66C for 90 minutes
Boil 90 minutes
OG 1050
FG 1008
Alcohol 5.6%
Bitterness 40 EBU
Colour 21 EBC
Yeast of your choice
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Re: Worthington White Shield...
I’ve made this 3 times now. Used WLP 013 which is supposed to be Worthington yeast.
Lovely stuff, though White Shield is one my favourite bottled beers anyway.
Lovely stuff, though White Shield is one my favourite bottled beers anyway.
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TWHS has been selling GW recipes for years. Presumably they had approached Graham for permission, or he wasn't bothered anywayDennis King wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:32 pmWhen I was a moderator in another forum I contacted Graham to see if he had any objection to his recipes being published on the forum. Providing it was not for gain or fame he had no objection. If the Worcesterhopshop are selling the recipes as kits I would say that is gain. Just a same he is no longer around to challenge them.Brewedout wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:31 pmI'm not sure I can, copyright would prevent this going out on the www. It was from GWs 3rd edition. That said, I know Worcesterhopshop sell all grain kits based on his recipes.Lanky94 wrote:HI. Any chance you could post the recipe please?
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The copyright for Brew Your Own British Real Ale is owned by CAMRA, not Graham. The book was sponsored by The Home Brew Shop and while Graham didn't care for such sponsorship he said it was esssential to get his books published. The latest book bearing his name is sponsored by the Malt Miller, while there is significant doubt it contains any new input by Graham. That is particularly sad when it appeared his intended next offering was mostly written more than a year before his sudden death.Dave S wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:33 pmTWHS has been selling GW recipes for years. Presumably they had approached Graham for permission, or he wasn't bothered anywayDennis King wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:32 pmWhen I was a moderator in another forum I contacted Graham to see if he had any objection to his recipes being published on the forum. Providing it was not for gain or fame he had no objection. If the Worcesterhopshop are selling the recipes as kits I would say that is gain. Just a same he is no longer around to challenge them.
Somehow I doubt if CAMRA would take action against any individual or group who spread information of suggested ingredients for replicating a commercial beer. As for Graham, I'm sure he'd like to know his work was, even now, well appreciated.
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Yes, well saidEric wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:09 pmThe copyright for Brew Your Own British Real Ale is owned by CAMRA, not Graham. The book was sponsored by The Home Brew Shop and while Graham didn't care for such sponsorship he said it was esssential to get his books published. The latest book bearing his name is sponsored by the Malt Miller, while there is significant doubt it contains any new input by Graham. That is particularly sad when it appeared his intended next offering was mostly written more than a year before his sudden death.Dave S wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:33 pmTWHS has been selling GW recipes for years. Presumably they had approached Graham for permission, or he wasn't bothered anywayDennis King wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:32 pm
When I was a moderator in another forum I contacted Graham to see if he had any objection to his recipes being published on the forum. Providing it was not for gain or fame he had no objection. If the Worcesterhopshop are selling the recipes as kits I would say that is gain. Just a same he is no longer around to challenge them.
Somehow I doubt if CAMRA would take action against any individual or group who spread information of suggested ingredients for replicating a commercial beer. As for Graham, I'm sure he'd like to know his work was, even now, well appreciated.
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I'm no expert and prepared to be proven wrong, but I thought I had read somewhere that legally you can't copyright a 'recipe'. I'm not excusing the behaviour by the way - just the problem.Eric wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:09 pmThe copyright for Brew Your Own British Real Ale is owned by CAMRA, not Graham. The book was sponsored by The Home Brew Shop and while Graham didn't care for such sponsorship he said it was esssential to get his books published. The latest book bearing his name is sponsored by the Malt Miller, while there is significant doubt it contains any new input by Graham. That is particularly sad when it appeared his intended next offering was mostly written more than a year before his sudden death.Dave S wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:33 pmTWHS has been selling GW recipes for years. Presumably they had approached Graham for permission, or he wasn't bothered anywayDennis King wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:32 pm
When I was a moderator in another forum I contacted Graham to see if he had any objection to his recipes being published on the forum. Providing it was not for gain or fame he had no objection. If the Worcesterhopshop are selling the recipes as kits I would say that is gain. Just a same he is no longer around to challenge them.
Somehow I doubt if CAMRA would take action against any individual or group who spread information of suggested ingredients for replicating a commercial beer. As for Graham, I'm sure he'd like to know his work was, even now, well appreciated.