Dave Line's Fullers ESB/John Bull Marris Otter Extract

[mshergold]

Cheers Chris

[mshergold]

I was wondering if Chris might be able to tell me the AA content of the hops he used in the ESB clone as I have two hops bought from two suppliers with different AA content and thought I'd try to work out the exact amount I'd need.

[mshergold]

Thanks Chris

[Ammered]

ah crap, I'm lost here already,

From the recipe for Fullers ESB on the front page.

The first picture has gone. The words read:

'Recipe/Method

18L
Pale LME 1.6kg
Crushed Crystal 120g
Soft Brown Sugar 800g
Goldings 60g
Goldings 10g

1.6kg pale malt extract, 120g crystal malt'


What do I do with the pale m.e and 120g crystal?

There are no grains mentioned in the recipe. What grains are they?

I'm useless at this recipe guessing business.

Thanks

[CrownCap]

The pale malt extract is in the tin, the grains are the crystal malt. The first picture probably showed the tin and the crushed grains laid out in a rather artistic manner

[phwed]

I tried this recipe last night as my first extract brew.

Since I was using up the ingredients I had lieing about I used:

1 can Brupacks premium grade Pale LME 1.5kg (Colour 4-6 EBC Protein (Nx6.25): 4.0-6.5 pH: 5.1-5.4 Acidity as lactic: Less than 1% %age solids 80-82%)
Brupacks Caramel Malt EBC 60 Light Crystal Malt (Crushed ) 120g
Soft Brown Sugar 800g (about 600 brown + 200 light muscavado)
Hop and grape Styrian Goldings Slovakian Hops AA 3.2% 60g
Hop and grape Styrian Goldings Slovakian Hops AA 3.2% Goldings 10g
1 Pack Safale s04 yeast
1tsp irish moss

Brew seemed to go well and the action in the FV is looking very good, but the OG was a tad low at 1041.

Any advice at where I might have gone wrong so I can aim for a better brew next time?

[Brotherton Lad]

"Brew seemed to go well and the action in the FV is looking very good, but the OG was a tad low at 1041."


What temperature did you take the OG at? It doesn't have to be much warmer than 20 degrees before you've got to add 3 0r 4 points to your reading.

PS. The markings on FVs are not especially accurate either, so you may have say 5 gall and a couple of extra pints in there, that's also worth a point or two to the OG.

[phwed]

What temperature did you take the OG at? It doesn't have to be much warmer than 20 degrees before you've got to add 3 0r 4 points to your reading.

That's a good point - it was about 24C. http://dd26943.com/davesdreaded/tools/convert.htm gives about 1042.8 so that's nearly a couple of points.

PS. The markings on FVs are not especially accurate either, so you may have say 5 gall and a couple of extra pints in there, that's also worth a point or two to the OG.

That could explain the rest of the difference actually. My FV didn't have any measurements on it so I was filling from a jug and marking significant points while the boiling was going on. No guarantee that I did it completely accurately, so I could well have overfilled.

Thanks,

puts my mind at rest so I'll just let it be and see how it turns out

[Brotherton Lad]

A couple of points is neither here nor there. It's not as if you'll be done under the Trades Description Act. If it's 1041 instead of 1046 it means you can drink another pint before you fall asleep.

[EramusBlack]

So, just put this in the pressure barrel as my first ME brew. Looks pretty clear already and tastes not bad. I don't think it matters, but I was expecting as something slightly darker and I followed the ingredients and the instructions pretty closely. Does this sound ok?

[Brotherton Lad]

Sounds fine. My last batch was a light amber colour. Not sure where you are, but a bit darker than Timmy Taylor's Landlord and a bit lighter than Tetley's. The fun of brewing is that next time you can try adding more crystal or black malt till you find a taste and colour that you like.