guypettigrew wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:46 pm
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Ah, but I can be excused. As I don't use regulators your carefully crafted posts full of expert knowledge have gone in one eye and out the other!
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I was using the UK legal definition; "ignorance is not an excuse in the eyes of the law".
guypettigrew wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:46 pm
… Seems to me Cornies and carbonation are a problem looking for a solution. The beer goes into a Cornie, is often force carbonated and then, hey presto, it's too fizzy!
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Corny kegs do need a bit of finesse and self-control to get cask-style beer out of them. It's why I'm always going on about LPG regulators; it is virtually impossible to manually judge having the pressure between 50 and 150 milli-BARs. I know when I used KKs the beer would frequently be fizzy because my estimates putting an extra squirt of CO
2 from a little cylinder was always too much.
The "fixed" 37mbar LPG regulators haven't got enough puff to half empty a Corny unless using a hand-pump. "Breathers" (zero psi regulators) cannot be used without a hand-pump, will "crack" the lid seal on a Corny keg, and will not maintain (for more than a few days) a satisfactory volume of CO
2 in the beer. I've seen stuff from CAMRA stating 1.1 volumes of CO
2 is ideal and will be maintained by atmospheric pressure (from their old "die hard" days): Bless them … but complete boll****.
Cask-style beer and force-carbonation cannot be spoken of together; they are mutually exclusive.
MashBag wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:05 am
I <g>ave up on cornies a while ago. Bottles are easier imo. The king keg setup sound interesting but is still only a pressure vessel, so is the difference a release valve?
KKs and Cornies are, like you say, both pressure vessels. The difference is put too much pressure in a KK (only over 10psi) and if you are lucky the crude relief valve operates, or, as would occasionally happen with mine, the KK makes like a football and blows the dimpled base out (or splits!). The potential destruction of beer and barrel focuses the mind to avoid such catastrophes.