How much gelatine to use for finings

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How much gelatine to use for finings

Post by sonicated » Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:09 am

Reading Jim's guide he adds "a sachet of gelatin" before kegging. I got some Dr. Oetker's gelatine from Sainsbury's and it works out at about 12 grams a sachet and it looks the size of the one Jim is using in the photo. However I have read online that 1.5 grams is sufficient.

How much should I use?

If I use 12 grams will it all drop out of the beer and just make really hard yeast jelly in the bottom of the bottles, or will it stay in the beer and make the beer thick? The packet states one sachet will set one pint of liquid.

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Re: How much gelatine to use for finings

Post by EoinMag » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:39 am

Finings are not really recommended for bottling, as Jim states "before Kegging" not before bottling. If you fine and then bottle you might find that you don't get a proper yeast sediment on the bottom of the bottle and the sediment will rise and mix through the beer easily.

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Re: How much gelatine to use for finings

Post by sonicated » Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:58 pm

That's true of most finings but I understand that gelatine sticks the yeast together in a jelly at the bottom of the bottle.

I need to try something. All my recent Munton's kits have not cleared :(

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Re: How much gelatine to use for finings

Post by Jim » Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:09 pm

As EoinMag says, it's best not to use any kind of finings for bottled beer. Gelatine performs badly in bottles - I've tried it.
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Re: How much gelatine to use for finings

Post by EoinMag » Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:31 pm

sonicated wrote:That's true of most finings but I understand that gelatine sticks the yeast together in a jelly at the bottom of the bottle.

I need to try something. All my recent Munton's kits have not cleared :(
How long have they been bottled without clearing? I used to leave my Muntons for a month in the fermenter then 4 days to a week in the bottle would clear them completely. I would also transfer to a bottling bucket.

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Re: How much gelatine to use for finings

Post by EoinMag » Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:34 pm

Just thought of something else, maybe fine the beer in the bottling bucket or fermenter and then leave it 24 hours to clear before bottling. That should transfer very little gelatin to the bottles and just enough yeast. Even if it appers there is no yeast there should be enough to secondary ferment you just might need patience.

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Re: How much gelatine to use for finings

Post by sonicated » Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:25 pm

I left my Nelsons revenge for 9 weeks before I finished it and it still hadn't cleared. I was attracted to gelatine as thought it might keep the yeast bed solid when pouring.

That's a good tip about adding it to the FV. Back to my original question - how much?

Thanks for all the replies so far!

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Re: How much gelatine to use for finings

Post by sonicated » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:27 pm

As a test I put one gram of gelatine in a 2 litre PET bottle. The beer cleared in two days, three weeks on the others are still very cloudy and as typical Muntons Kits I don't expect them to clear. I drank it last night and the sediment was more lively than without gelatine but I poured in a jug and the resulting beer was perfectly clear.

This amount is equivalent to one sachet per 5 gallon batch. Next time I bottle I will experiment with just using 1.5g per 5 gallons and see how that performs.

I've been brewing for a year now and rarely had a Munton's kit clear - I can't believe I haven't used gelatine before!

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Re: How much gelatine to use for finings

Post by mysterio » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:55 pm

I just use half a sachet per cornie keg.

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Re: How much gelatine to use for finings

Post by sonicated » Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:25 pm

mysterio wrote:I just use half a sachet per cornie keg.
Thanks for the tip, I'll try that as well :)

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Re: How much gelatine to use for finings

Post by podge1 » Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:39 pm

Dont want to lower the tone at all but cant help myself, adding finnings loosens my bowels a lot more than it clears my beer maybe i use too much 1 small pack per kit. Will not use again. :x

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Re: How much gelatine to use for finings

Post by Cheshire-cheese » Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:50 pm

2 - 3 teaspoons of gelatine for 25 litres
podge1 wrote:Dont want to lower the tone at all but cant help myself, adding finnings loosens my bowels a lot more than it clears my beer maybe i use too much 1 small pack per kit. Will not use again. :x

What finings did you use that caused your, er, sediment to drop so quickly? :D

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